From owner-freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Mon Dec 4 10:42:49 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-arch@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA9A0DF7F23 for ; Mon, 4 Dec 2017 10:42:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rb@gid.co.uk) Received: from mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (unknown [127.0.1.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C4C762FD6 for ; Mon, 4 Dec 2017 10:42:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rb@gid.co.uk) Received: by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) id C3BB6DF7F22; Mon, 4 Dec 2017 10:42:49 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: arch@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C0C85DF7F21 for ; Mon, 4 Dec 2017 10:42:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rb@gid.co.uk) Received: from mx0.gid.co.uk (mx0.gid.co.uk [194.32.164.250]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 67E382FD5; Mon, 4 Dec 2017 10:42:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rb@gid.co.uk) Received: from [192.168.0.221] ([80.71.24.25]) by mx0.gid.co.uk (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id vB4AgaBH083073; Mon, 4 Dec 2017 10:42:36 GMT (envelope-from rb@gid.co.uk) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 10.3 \(3273\)) Subject: Re: Deprecating / Removing floppy drive support From: Bob Bishop In-Reply-To: <387b63e9-f97c-fa2d-192d-8e36cb2dbcba@digiware.nl> Date: Mon, 4 Dec 2017 10:42:34 +0000 Cc: Alex Kozlov , Poul-Henning Kamp , arch@freebsd.org Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <6BB03804-172F-40C0-97A9-8360971B3364@gid.co.uk> References: <201712030616.vB36GFEg026146@slippy.cwsent.com> <43746890-e60a-5c8f-4c77-bbfe9a5a6aa9@selasky.org> <67961.1512296877@critter.freebsd.dk> <20171203120028.32f84314@ernst.home> <20171203113341.GA68792@ravenloft.kiev.ua> <23404.1512302187@critter.freebsd.dk> <20171203121821.GA69142@ravenloft.kiev.ua> <387b63e9-f97c-fa2d-192d-8e36cb2dbcba@digiware.nl> To: Willem Jan Withagen X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3273) X-BeenThere: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.25 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion related to FreeBSD architecture List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Dec 2017 10:42:49 -0000 Hi, > On 4 Dec 2017, at 09:26, Willem Jan Withagen wrote: >=20 > On 03/12/2017 13:18, Alex Kozlov wrote: >> On Sun, Dec 03, 2017 at 11:56:27AM +0000, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: >>> -------- >>> In message <20171203113341.GA68792@ravenloft.kiev.ua>, Alex Kozlov = writes: >>>> On Sun, Dec 03, 2017 at 12:00:28PM +0100, Gary Jennejohn wrote: >>>>> On Sun, 03 Dec 2017 10:27:57 +0000 >>>>> "Poul-Henning Kamp" wrote: >>>>>=20 >>>>>> Incidentally FreeBSD is/was the only modern OS which could >>>>>> still read 8" floppies. >>>> Well, with proper* cable you can connect 8" drive to fdc and read >>>> it pretty much on any OS that supports floppies. >>> Uhm... no ? >>>=20 >>> Very few OS's have had 8" format compatible settings since CP/M >>> and even fewer handle the track46 pin correctly on write. >> I'd done it in dos, I read about successful setups for Linux and >> Windows(older). Anecdotally, I was not able to do it in FreeBSD. >=20 > Never too late to learn.... >=20 > I still think I have my (from 1982) 8" disks around with a ported CP/M = system to a TRS-80 like system... But ever since the Intel ASM/CPM = developement stack died on the University they have been lying round for = nostalgic reasons. And the hardware got dumped with the last move about = 12 years ago. >=20 > But it never ever occured to me that FreeBSD would be able to do 8", = if alone for the controller. But now I learn that it could have = worked... > Cool :) IIRC (it has been a while), the interfaces (h/w and protocol) to 8=E2=80=9D= drives varied somewhat by manufacturer. And yes, I do have at least one = drive, blank media and an alignment disk in the archive. > --WjW > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-arch@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-arch > To unsubscribe, send any mail to = "freebsd-arch-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >=20 -- Bob Bishop rb@gid.co.uk