From owner-cvs-all Thu Aug 1 17:46:35 2002 Delivered-To: cvs-all@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D3A737B400; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 17:46:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from wwweasel.geeksrus.net (wwweasel.geeksrus.net [64.8.210.226]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BAA9943E65; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 17:46:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from alane@wwweasel.geeksrus.net) Received: from wwweasel.geeksrus.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wwweasel.geeksrus.net (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g720jqo5056366; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 20:45:52 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from alane@wwweasel.geeksrus.net) Received: (from alane@localhost) by wwweasel.geeksrus.net (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g720jn0h056365; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 20:45:49 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from alane) Date: Thu, 1 Aug 2002 20:45:49 -0400 From: Alan E To: Mikhail Teterin Cc: cvs-committers@FreeBSD.org, cvs-all@FreeBSD.org, kde@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: [kde-freebsd] Re: cvs commit: ports/chinese/kde3-i18n-zh_CN Makefile ports/chinese/kde3-i18n-zh_TW Makefile ports/french/kde3-i18n Makefile ports/german/kde3-i18n Makefile ports/japanese/kde3-i18n Makefile ports/korean/kde3-i18n Makefile ports/misc/kde2-i18n Makefile ports/misc/kde3-i18n-fi ... Message-ID: <20020802004549.GB55896@wwweasel.geeksrus.net> References: <200208012109.g71L9hxC055382@freefall.freebsd.org> <200208012029.28543@aldan> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200208012029.28543@aldan> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.1i Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, Aug 01, 2002 at 08:29:28PM -0400, Mikhail Teterin wrote: >On Thursday 01 August 2002 05:09 pm, Alan Eldridge wrote: >= alane 2002/08/01 14:09:43 PDT >= [....] is fragile enough in its dependencies; we don't > > >Actually, it is not. I'm running kdebase-3.0.1 with kdelibs-3.0.2 replaced >from underneath it with no problems... No comment. If it breaks, you get to keep both pieces. >You definetly did NOT have to bump most of the i18n PORTREVISIONs. >They don't even install binaries... > > % (1018) egrep lib/\|bin/ /usr/ports/misc/kde3-i18n*/pkg-plist | wc -l > 0 It was easier to be consistent than to try to justify well, do this one but not that one. >I wish people were a lot more careful with PORTREVISIONS. The amount of >needless redownloading/reinstalling they cause is too high :-( And the >package names look ugly :-) Tell me how, with cvsup, anybody got harmed by this. I only bumped on those that directly depend on libintl.so.X. In this case, I think it is warranted. Of those, most people will only use kdebase3, and maybe 1 i18n port. It's just to make sure things get rebuilt that should. I think you're wasting a lot of time and energy on something that is done, harms no one, and may help people. >It is too late to ask ourselves if it the shlib bump was, in fact, necessary >in the latest gettext upgrade was neccessary in the first place... Then why are you complaining about this now? >In any case, ldd does not show libintl for neither one of kmail, kdm, >konqueror, nor kuickshow. How it is I don't know, but, may be, it is >only the kdelibs[23], that actually needed rebuilding? If kdelibs needed rebuilding, it would have been bumped. I see you didn't read the package list, or at least not closely enough. -- AlanE KDE-FreeBSD Team To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message