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Date:      Thu, 1 Aug 2002 20:45:49 -0400
From:      Alan E <alane@geeksrus.net>
To:        Mikhail Teterin <mi+kde@aldan.algebra.com>
Cc:        cvs-committers@FreeBSD.org, cvs-all@FreeBSD.org, kde@FreeBSD.org
Subject:   Re: [kde-freebsd] Re: cvs commit: ports/chinese/kde3-i18n-zh_CN Makefile ports/chinese/kde3-i18n-zh_TW         Makefile ports/french/kde3-i18n Makefile ports/german/kde3-i18n         Makefile ports/japanese/kde3-i18n Makefile ports/korean/kde3-i18n         Makefile ports/misc/kde2-i18n Makefile ports/misc/kde3-i18n-fi ...
Message-ID:  <20020802004549.GB55896@wwweasel.geeksrus.net>
In-Reply-To: <200208012029.28543@aldan>
References:  <200208012109.g71L9hxC055382@freefall.freebsd.org> <200208012029.28543@aldan>

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On Thu, Aug 01, 2002 at 08:29:28PM -0400, Mikhail Teterin wrote:
>On Thursday 01 August 2002 05:09 pm, Alan Eldridge wrote:
>= alane       2002/08/01 14:09:43 PDT
>=   [....] is fragile enough in its dependencies; we don't
>
>
>Actually, it is not. I'm running kdebase-3.0.1 with kdelibs-3.0.2 replaced
>from underneath it with no problems...

No comment. If it breaks, you get to keep both pieces.

>You definetly did NOT have to bump most of the i18n PORTREVISIONs.
>They don't even install binaries...
>
>	% (1018) egrep lib/\|bin/ /usr/ports/misc/kde3-i18n*/pkg-plist | wc -l
>	       0

It was easier to be consistent than to try to justify well, do this one
but not that one.

>I wish people were a lot more careful with PORTREVISIONS. The amount of 
>needless redownloading/reinstalling they cause is too high :-( And the
>package names look ugly :-)

Tell me how, with cvsup, anybody got harmed by this. I only bumped on
those that directly depend on libintl.so.X. In this case, I think it is
warranted. Of those, most people will only use kdebase3, and maybe 1
i18n port. It's just to make sure things get rebuilt that should.

I think you're wasting a lot of time and energy on something that is
done, harms no one, and may help people.

>It is too late to ask ourselves if it the shlib bump was, in fact, necessary 
>in the latest gettext upgrade was neccessary in the first place...

Then why are you complaining about this now?

>In any case, ldd does not show libintl for neither one of kmail, kdm,
>konqueror, nor kuickshow. How it is I don't know, but, may be, it is
>only the kdelibs[23], that actually needed rebuilding?

If kdelibs needed rebuilding, it would have been bumped. I see you
didn't read the package list, or at least not closely enough.
-- 
AlanE
KDE-FreeBSD Team

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