From owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org Wed Jan 2 21:54:24 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 11BF5143273C for ; Wed, 2 Jan 2019 21:54:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhb@FreeBSD.org) Received: from mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (mailman.ysv.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::50:5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B493724E9 for ; Wed, 2 Jan 2019 21:54:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhb@FreeBSD.org) Received: by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) id 58E0F143273B; Wed, 2 Jan 2019 21:54:23 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: current@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 339E2143273A for ; Wed, 2 Jan 2019 21:54:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhb@FreeBSD.org) Received: from mail.baldwin.cx (bigwig.baldwin.cx [IPv6:2001:470:1f11:75::1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B9C4B724E7 for ; Wed, 2 Jan 2019 21:54:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhb@FreeBSD.org) Received: from John-Baldwins-MacBook-Pro-3.local (ralph.baldwin.cx [66.234.199.215]) by mail.baldwin.cx (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 764A810B707; Wed, 2 Jan 2019 16:54:20 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: kernel config question To: Robert Huff Cc: current@freebsd.org References: <23597.4315.739853.729163@jerusalem.litteratus.org> <20190102200226.GQ84895@home.opsec.eu> <792fec6e-2dcc-3fba-73d7-31e925cf2a13@FreeBSD.org> <23597.11683.194179.304498@jerusalem.litteratus.org> From: John Baldwin Openpgp: preference=signencrypt Autocrypt: addr=jhb@FreeBSD.org; keydata= mQGiBETQ+XcRBADMFybiq69u+fJRy/0wzqTNS8jFfWaBTs5/OfcV7wWezVmf9sgwn8TW0Dk0 c9MBl0pz+H01dA2ZSGZ5fXlmFIsee1WEzqeJzpiwd/pejPgSzXB9ijbLHZ2/E0jhGBcVy5Yo /Tw5+U/+laeYKu2xb0XPvM0zMNls1ah5OnP9a6Ql6wCgupaoMySb7DXm2LHD1Z9jTsHcAQMD /1jzh2BoHriy/Q2s4KzzjVp/mQO5DSm2z14BvbQRcXU48oAosHA1u3Wrov6LfPY+0U1tG47X 1BGfnQH+rNAaH0livoSBQ0IPI/8WfIW7ub4qV6HYwWKVqkDkqwcpmGNDbz3gfaDht6nsie5Z pcuCcul4M9CW7Md6zzyvktjnbz61BADGDCopfZC4of0Z3Ka0u8Wik6UJOuqShBt1WcFS8ya1 oB4rc4tXfSHyMF63aPUBMxHR5DXeH+EO2edoSwViDMqWk1jTnYza51rbGY+pebLQOVOxAY7k do5Ordl3wklBPMVEPWoZ61SdbcjhHVwaC5zfiskcxj5wwXd2E9qYlBqRg7QeSm9obiBCYWxk d2luIDxqaGJARnJlZUJTRC5vcmc+iGAEExECACAFAkTQ+awCGwMGCwkIBwMCBBUCCAMEFgID AQIeAQIXgAAKCRBy3lIGd+N/BI6RAJ9S97fvbME+3hxzE3JUyUZ6vTewDACdE1stFuSfqMvM jomvZdYxIYyTUpC5Ag0ERND5ghAIAPwsO0B7BL+bz8sLlLoQktGxXwXQfS5cInvL17Dsgnr3 1AKa94j9EnXQyPEj7u0d+LmEe6CGEGDh1OcGFTMVrof2ZzkSy4+FkZwMKJpTiqeaShMh+Goj XlwIMDxyADYvBIg3eN5YdFKaPQpfgSqhT+7El7w+wSZZD8pPQuLAnie5iz9C8iKy4/cMSOrH YUK/tO+Nhw8Jjlw94Ik0T80iEhI2t+XBVjwdfjbq3HrJ0ehqdBwukyeJRYKmbn298KOFQVHO EVbHA4rF/37jzaMadK43FgJ0SAhPPF5l4l89z5oPu0b/+5e2inA3b8J3iGZxywjM+Csq1tqz hltEc7Q+E08AAwUIAL+15XH8bPbjNJdVyg2CMl10JNW2wWg2Q6qdljeaRqeR6zFus7EZTwtX sNzs5bP8y51PSUDJbeiy2RNCNKWFMndM22TZnk3GNG45nQd4OwYK0RZVrikalmJY5Q6m7Z16 4yrZgIXFdKj2t8F+x613/SJW1lIr9/bDp4U9tw0V1g3l2dFtD3p3ZrQ3hpoDtoK70ioIAjjH aIXIAcm3FGZFXy503DOA0KaTWwvOVdYCFLm3zWuSOmrX/GsEc7ovasOWwjPn878qVjbUKWwx Q4QkF4OhUV9zPtf9tDSAZ3x7QSwoKbCoRCZ/xbyTUPyQ1VvNy/mYrBcYlzHodsaqUDjHuW+I SQQYEQIACQUCRND5ggIbDAAKCRBy3lIGd+N/BCO8AJ9j1dWVQWxw/YdTbEyrRKOY8YZNwwCf afMAg8QvmOWnHx3wl8WslCaXaE8= Message-ID: <162e2013-9181-50cd-a3aa-8231e0a1eb99@FreeBSD.org> Date: Wed, 2 Jan 2019 13:54:19 -0800 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.12; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/60.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <23597.11683.194179.304498@jerusalem.litteratus.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Greylist: Sender succeeded SMTP AUTH, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.4.3 (mail.baldwin.cx); Wed, 02 Jan 2019 16:54:20 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.99.2 at mail.baldwin.cx X-Virus-Status: Clean X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 02 Jan 2019 21:54:24 -0000 On 1/2/19 1:31 PM, Robert Huff wrote: > > John Baldwin writes: > >> >> [8] In order to have a kernel that can run the 4.x binaries >> >> needed to do an installworld, you must include the >> >> COMPAT_FREEBSD4 option in your kernel. [...] >> >> > No, COMPAT_FREEBSD4 is not needed. Maybe COMPAT_FREEBSD11 is needed. >> >> Yes, that text needs to be made more generic to say that you will need >> COMPAT_FREEBSD. Though we've also had some major branches that >> didn't get a COMPAT_FREEBSD option. > > Are any of those still supported? I'm not sure, but I mean more that you can't assume we will always have a COMPAT_FREEBSD. There was a COMPAT_FREEBSD11. It looks like we actually only skipped COMPAT_FREEBSD8 to date. Perhaps we can just avoid worrying about the lack of COMPAT_FREEBSD. The text does say "and so on" for newer versions, but it's probably not clear. How about this: Index: UPDATING =================================================================== --- UPDATING (revision 342703) +++ UPDATING (working copy) @@ -1901,12 +1901,13 @@ COMMON ITEMS: can be deleted by "make delete-old-libs", but you have to make sure that no program is using those libraries anymore. - [8] In order to have a kernel that can run the 4.x binaries needed to - do an installworld, you must include the COMPAT_FREEBSD4 option in - your kernel. Failure to do so may leave you with a system that is - hard to boot to recover. A similar kernel option COMPAT_FREEBSD5 is - required to run the 5.x binaries on more recent kernels. And so on - for COMPAT_FREEBSD6 and COMPAT_FREEBSD7. + [8] The new kernel must be able to run existing binaries used by + an installworld. When upgrading across major versions, the new + kernel's configuration must include the correct COMPAT_FREEBSD + option for existing binaries (e.g. COMPAT_FREEBSD11 to run 11.x + binaries). Failure to do so may leave you with a system that is + hard to boot to recover. A GENERIC kernel will include suitable + compatibility options to run binaries from older branches. Make sure that you merge any new devices from GENERIC since the last time you updated your kernel config file. -- John Baldwin