From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 5 18:22:29 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C54501065771 for ; Fri, 5 Jun 2009 18:22:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED8898FC21 for ; Fri, 5 Jun 2009 18:22:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n55IMEfE084562; Fri, 5 Jun 2009 20:22:14 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) with ESMTP id n55IMEcL084559; Fri, 5 Jun 2009 20:22:14 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Fri, 5 Jun 2009 20:22:14 +0200 (CEST) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Chad Perrin In-Reply-To: <20090605180806.GE87456@kokopelli.hydra> Message-ID: References: <20090603091800.GA1177@phenom.cordula.ws> <20090603102720.GB1349@phenom.cordula.ws> <20090603133343.GB1988@phenom.cordula.ws> <4ad871310906030653o62d7e708w1a7be44334ab8dab@mail.gmail.com> <20090603152939.GF1988@phenom.cordula.ws> <20090603185039.54cdd820.freebsd@edvax.de> <20090605180806.GE87456@kokopelli.hydra> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Open_Source X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Jun 2009 18:22:30 -0000 >> >> A counter-example is VMS. It is a commercial product, but highly >> reliable and secure. > > It's also a much *simpler* piece of software than something like MS > Windows, which makes it much easier to secure. you meant more logical? It's really hard to take care of software product that looks like random mess of different programs+patches without any higher idea - which micro-soft windows is.