From owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Nov 22 16:39:09 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D542D6C; Thu, 22 Nov 2012 16:39:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mjguzik@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wi0-f170.google.com (mail-wi0-f170.google.com [209.85.212.170]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E14208FC12; Thu, 22 Nov 2012 16:39:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-wi0-f170.google.com with SMTP id hq7so816720wib.1 for ; Thu, 22 Nov 2012 08:39:07 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id:mail-followup-to:references :mime-version:content-type:content-disposition:in-reply-to :user-agent; bh=/pp/KL3aihwcoe0PLcYGU2GmwvdnmsNgV7OmC1nzD9o=; b=CHR4JP2FqcjeWK9gu/IltiTCSfSVTbCW+Dh0PyzBvqGSMZDeBpcXODvTxHqxDu3j2c y7qlI0P/BO/l6bfb60e2HF/hSSgVvqBI8oavQmIfVejGbNDh5Q7SgfRZvnQw+xhWCb6c gm08VX8ZCZoZCQDkOoNL1EGk90nuu8/GzOXEYF1oCkxActULURqFSGQphsEt34CE3TuL sjpiYKvjCRDMOtGE9oY5kNMUYlMJG9Jkye18xsosH13sHoL0UNP85NywXgMem9wO/xkT jUELO2MhtrABL9kuyQorYbqBpPV4vhclGeudUhG/gLUz20NFpXXRhtWULg/6xrvLr2Vl wh6A== Received: by 10.216.204.72 with SMTP id g50mr487447weo.160.1353602347607; Thu, 22 Nov 2012 08:39:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from dft-labs.eu (n1x0n-1-pt.tunnel.tserv5.lon1.ipv6.he.net. [2001:470:1f08:1f7::2]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id hv4sm4808821wib.0.2012.11.22.08.39.05 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Thu, 22 Nov 2012 08:39:06 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2012 17:38:58 +0100 From: Mateusz Guzik To: Zaphod Beeblebrox Subject: Re: old style kernel configuration Message-ID: <20121122163857.GA25225@dft-labs.eu> Mail-Followup-To: Mateusz Guzik , Zaphod Beeblebrox , Eitan Adler , FreeBSD Hackers , Benjamin Kaduk References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) Cc: Eitan Adler , Benjamin Kaduk , FreeBSD Hackers X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2012 16:39:09 -0000 On Thu, Nov 22, 2012 at 11:35:57AM -0500, Zaphod Beeblebrox wrote: > On Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 8:58 PM, Eitan Adler wrote: > > I've been working on removing obsolete information various documents. > > While going through older articles I noticed a few references to the > > "old style" kernel configuration involving running config(1) manually. > > > > Is there any value in keeping this documented as an alternative to > > "make buildkernel" or should it be treated as an implementation detail? > > I suppose it makes less difference on a modern system where "make > buildkernel" takes 15 minutes or even less, but the manual kernel > build gives the opportunity to rebuild a kernel without building > everything --- as in the case where you just modified something simple > (say USB or PCI device IDs). I'm not talking about the dedicate > kernel developer who should "know things" like this, but the user who > makes these kernel modifications occasionally. # make buildkernel ... KERNFAST=1 -- Mateusz Guzik