From owner-freebsd-advocacy Fri Nov 27 06:33:31 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA25239 for freebsd-advocacy-outgoing; Fri, 27 Nov 1998 06:33:31 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from lion.plab.ku.dk (lion.plab.ku.dk [130.225.105.49]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA25234 for ; Fri, 27 Nov 1998 06:33:29 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tobez@lion.plab.ku.dk) Received: from localhost (2431 bytes) by lion.plab.ku.dk via sendmail with P:stdio/R:bind_hosts/T:inet_zone_bind_smtp (sender: ) (ident using unix) id for ; Fri, 27 Nov 1998 15:32:33 +0100 (CET) (Smail-3.2.0.101 1997-Dec-17 #1 built 1998-Nov-8) To: aturoff@isinet.com Cc: "Jordan K. Hubbard" , Brett Glass , advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Linux to be deployed in Mexican schools; Where was FreeBSD? References: <48004.911945650@zippy.cdrom.com> <98Nov24.180838est.113829@pandora.isinet.com> From: Anton Berezin Date: 27 Nov 1998 15:32:33 +0100 In-Reply-To: Adam Turoff's message of Tue, 24 Nov 1998 18:19:14 -0500 Message-ID: <8667c1jjem.fsf@lion.plab.ku.dk> Lines: 52 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.3/Emacs 19.34 Sender: owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Adam Turoff writes: > Jordan K. Hubbard wrote: > > As is my usual gripe in advocacy, what we really need around here > > aren't a bunch of firemen who arrive at the scene of the fire well > > after it has already consumed the building and stand around saying > > meaningful things like "This was a fire! It appears to have burned > > down the building! Fires are bad, someone should do something." > > > > Such firemen are obviously of no use at all and should probably go > > into less challenging professions like chicken inspection or lavatory > > maintenance. What we need are firemen who actually arrive in time to > > have a meaningful affect on fires *as they are happening* or can turn > > practical expertise towards preventing fires in the first place. :-) > > Exactly. If we all whine about how nobody uses FreeBSD while we're > on our own small patch of sand, FreeBSD won't amount to a hill of beans. > We need to advocate among other communities (such as Gnome/KDE, perl, > python, apache, tech/business journalists, etc.). Which reminds me: http://www.perl.org/cgi-bin/survey The current standings are: Respondents so far: 4855 Top 10 most used platforms Linux 3096 Solaris 2329 Win 95, 98, NT 2124 MacOS 1253 SunOS 1240 HP-UX 752 Free-, Net-, OpenBSD 650 IRIX 606 AIX 528 DEC Unix, OSF/1 440 I can't believe there are so little people out there using perl on *BSD. Of course, this mostly advocates perl, but I've seen in various perl newsgroups and/or mailing lists certain OS discussions based on those numbers... -- Anton Berezin The Protein Laboratory, University of Copenhagen To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-advocacy" in the body of the message