From owner-freebsd-embedded@freebsd.org Sun Dec 31 00:46:28 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-embedded@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 48267EB5F04 for ; Sun, 31 Dec 2017 00:46:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-rwg@pdx.rh.CN85.dnsmgr.net) Received: from mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (unknown [127.0.1.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 31749763F5 for ; Sun, 31 Dec 2017 00:46:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-rwg@pdx.rh.CN85.dnsmgr.net) Received: by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) id 2D355EB5F01; Sun, 31 Dec 2017 00:46:28 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: embedded@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2CBC7EB5F00; Sun, 31 Dec 2017 00:46:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-rwg@pdx.rh.CN85.dnsmgr.net) Received: from pdx.rh.CN85.dnsmgr.net (br1.CN84in.dnsmgr.net [69.59.192.140]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 12462763F4; Sun, 31 Dec 2017 00:46:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-rwg@pdx.rh.CN85.dnsmgr.net) Received: from pdx.rh.CN85.dnsmgr.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pdx.rh.CN85.dnsmgr.net (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id vBV0kLmR078534; Sat, 30 Dec 2017 16:46:21 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from freebsd-rwg@pdx.rh.CN85.dnsmgr.net) Received: (from freebsd-rwg@localhost) by pdx.rh.CN85.dnsmgr.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id vBV0kLQ7078533; Sat, 30 Dec 2017 16:46:21 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from freebsd-rwg) From: "Rodney W. Grimes" Message-Id: <201712310046.vBV0kLQ7078533@pdx.rh.CN85.dnsmgr.net> Subject: Re: Minor MIPS tree pruning In-Reply-To: To: Warner Losh Date: Sat, 30 Dec 2017 16:46:21 -0800 (PST) CC: Robert Watson , "freebsd-embedded@freebsd.org" , Emmanuel Vadot , "freebsd-mips@freebsd.org" X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL121h (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-BeenThere: freebsd-embedded@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.25 Precedence: list List-Id: Dedicated and Embedded Systems List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 31 Dec 2017 00:46:28 -0000 > On Sat, Dec 30, 2017 at 5:28 PM, Rodney W. Grimes < > freebsd-rwg@pdx.rh.cn85.dnsmgr.net> wrote: > > > > Can you give me pointers to these boards for adm5120 and IDT? When last I > > > tried to get them 5 years ago they were hard to come by and generally > > came > > > with no more than 32M or 64M of memory. > > > > > > mips/rt305x has been subsumed by mips/mediatek, so will be deleted w/o > > loss > > > of functionality. > > > > Please go back and read very carefully what the person said about > > this. It was PLANNED to subsume rt305x into mediatek, but it has > > NOT been done yet. At least that is how I read the persons > > comments. > > > That's not how I read it. I read it as "this is what we planned, and we've > arrived." However, out of an abundance of caution, I sent an email asking > for confirmation. Code inspection certainly suggests that my interpretation > is correct. Thanks. Also you might want to ping the router projects folks, as I believe many of the mips based routers use this SOC and they may have info on which of the implementations work better, and/or if the mediatek branch is up to speed and the rt305x can just be axed. I know this project is out there someplace, but can not find a link for it right now. And I have seen some activity someplace from them in the last 3 or 4 months. > Warner > > > > > > > I'm curious what benefit sibyte has apart from broadcom? It seems to > > > support a super old broadcom chip that's way obsolete that has a bunch of > > > errata that need workarounds that aren't present in newer chips. What am > > I > > > missing? > > > > > > Warner > > > > > > On Sat, Dec 30, 2017 at 5:03 AM, Michael Zhilin > > wrote: > > > > > > > Hi Warner, > > > > > > > > If I can give my twopence worth, I think that adm5120 & idt are to be > > kept > > > > for a while, there are few vintage boards (for instance, Mikrotik from > > > > Latvia) with good configuration (plenty of flash and RAM), sibyte is > > to be > > > > part of broadcom and also kept for a while. > > > > rt305x is still very popular and cheap (for instance, "3g router" with > > > > RT5350 from AliExpress, but I have one, not yet tested). > > > > > > > > And I don't know what is alchemy. :) > > > > > > > > Thank you! > > > > P.S. Wish you Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to you and your > > family. > > > > > > > > On Sat, Dec 30, 2017 at 11:10 AM, Warner Losh wrote: > > > > > > > >> I'd like to propose that we eliminate support for the following > > before the > > > >> FreeBSD 12 branch. > > > >> > > > >> adm5120 (most boards don't have enough memory, very old) > > > >> alchemy (the au1xxxx port never really was finished, and boards lack > > > >> memory, very old) > > > >> idt (only a few boards worked, most are long obsolete) > > > >> rt305x (raylink kit is now out dated, at least I think so) > > > >> sibyte (long obsolete, hard to get hardware) > > > >> > > > >> I thought I'd post a heads up here before I proposed this list to > > arch@. > > > >> > > > >> We have enough exemplars these days we don't need to keep these older > > > >> ports > > > >> around as examples anymore, and I have my doubts if we even work on > > these > > > >> boards anymore. > > > >> > > > >> If I'm wrong about these being old, or that FreeBSD is no longer > > running > > > >> on > > > >> them, please let me know. Thanks! > > > >> > > > >> Warner > > > >> _______________________________________________ > > > >> freebsd-mips@freebsd.org mailing list > > > >> https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-mips > > > >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-mips-unsubscribe@ > > freebsd.org" > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > freebsd-mips@freebsd.org mailing list > > > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-mips > > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-mips-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > > > > > -- > > Rod Grimes > > rgrimes@freebsd.org > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-mips@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-mips > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-mips-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > -- Rod Grimes rgrimes@freebsd.org