From owner-freebsd-isp Sun Jun 18 11:43:27 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from etinc.com (et-gw.etinc.com [207.252.1.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 991C137B7ED for ; Sun, 18 Jun 2000 11:43:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dennis@etinc.com) Received: from workstation.etinc.com (port55.netsvr1.cst.vastnet.net [207.252.73.55]) by etinc.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id OAA24094; Sun, 18 Jun 2000 14:51:25 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <200006181851.OAA24094@etinc.com> X-Sender: dennis@mail.etinc.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0 Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2000 14:48:36 -0400 To: ryder_a@chasma.net, ripley@nostromo.in-berlin.de From: Dennis Subject: Re: Resume... (in defense) Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG, jlschwab@uswest.net In-Reply-To: <200006181726.NAA22381@www.invisiware.com> References: <20000618031620.B3840@server.nostromo.in-berlin.de> <20000618031620.B3840@server.nostromo.in-berlin.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Its not your age, but your years of direct experience that matter. Most teens just dont do much. I'll take an 18yo with 2 years of cgi DB programming in a commercial environment over a 23yo with an MBA anyday. They'll cost a lot less and get more done. I have a Degree in business...learned the computer and datacomm stuff after, but I didnt know anything useful when I got out of college. Certainly I was more well-rounded than an 18yo with a narrow understanding of the world, but until you get 2 years of real experience you aint worth anything. Dennis At 01:31 PM 6/18/00 -0600, Andrew Ryder wrote: >What he might consider himself might contradict someone elses opinion of >his qualificiations. But age and experience have no relation whatsoever. >Granted the typical teenager has lack of direction and works at the local >McDonalds/Gas Station, but lets take into consideration the broader >perspective. > >I am 18 and started a company (Legally registered corporation, not some >shit LLC) with someone who is 17. We employ over 30 people currently. We >have both edited a business plan and have secured 250K for our company so >far and have many other offers from angels. Not to mention a formal (and >very respected) BOD has been established, many contacts in the industry >(including Lucent), 5k of office space. > >When a CEO of a software company/GM of a radio station and newspaper/CTO of >a software company doing network maintainence software for Dell and HP/ >Accounts Executive (of 20 years) from People Magazine want to help out, and >read your business plan and think it's awesome - you know that you're going >in the right direction. Teens might lack the 'formal everyday' experience >but we can sure run a company. The BOD just steers us cleer of iceburgs. > >I got my break when I was 15 and got a 'waved' to work in a company hiring >only kids with HS diplomas. Received a great letter of recommendation. > >Telling me teenagers can't do anything, or college degrees are required to >go anywhere in life, then you're missing the reality track on the record >of life. > >If anything, teenagers have no boundaries in life and are not worn out by >conformity. They are willing to work past barriers adults perceive. > >The fortunate company who gives the boy a chance would benefit from his >loyalty because they gave him the chance. He wants to grow his skills in a >real world situation and is willing to 'survive bootcamp' of a mentor/ >teacher. He's alot more openminded to going places than adults/people who >think teenagers should just go run the fryer. > > >[Jun/17/2000Sat 19:16] > >> Consider yourself lucky to be qualified to admin a microwave >> at a fastfood restaurant. This might even help you to get a >> chance to get a real qualification in the near future. >> >> Greetings, >> Ripley >> >> >> To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >> with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message >> > > >/* Andrew Ryder - ryder_a@chasma.net > * Chief Technology Officer > * Chasma, Inc > * http://www.chasma.net > */ > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- http://www.etinc.com T1/T3 boards for FreeBSD and Linux Multiport T1/T3 Routers Full-Featured Bandwidth Manager For Linux and FreeBSD To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message