From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Mar 19 06:22:17 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id GAA02803 for isp-outgoing; Tue, 19 Mar 1996 06:22:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from brasil.moneng.mei.com (brasil.moneng.mei.com [151.186.109.160]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id GAA02797 for ; Tue, 19 Mar 1996 06:22:14 -0800 (PST) Received: (from jgreco@localhost) by brasil.moneng.mei.com (8.7.Beta.1/8.7.Beta.1) id IAA27222; Tue, 19 Mar 1996 08:20:57 -0600 From: Joe Greco Message-Id: <199603191420.IAA27222@brasil.moneng.mei.com> Subject: Re: Microsoft "Get ISDN"? To: tom@inna.net (Thomas Arnold) Date: Tue, 19 Mar 1996 08:20:56 -0600 (CST) Cc: freebsd-isp@freefall.FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: from "Thomas Arnold" at Mar 19, 96 03:04:07 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-isp@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > On Mon, 18 Mar 1996, Joe Greco wrote: > > Because the whole world is NOT PPP. Some is SLIP - some is direct dialin - > > etc. For example, I run all my dedicated connections via SLIP. Or... > > it's really nice to be able to dial into Exec-PC (world's largest BBS) and > > download files at ISDN speeds. > > I am curious, why do you use SLIP for your dedicated connections? Less potential BS to debug. I like the interface afforded by "startslip" and "sliplogin". It (used to be?) is very difficult to do all sorts of nifty routing things with PPP that I find relatively easy to do with SLIP. And maybe I just really really don't like gratuitous change. I hacked startslip to do all the things I wanted, and I made it work with FreeBSD (it came along for free from 4.4-Lite, but it was quite busted). It works great, it's reliable, and I have yet to hear a convincing reason to go to all sorts of work to re-engineer things to work with PPP, which I have witnessed in the past to be mildly buggy and problematic. Userland PPP can only do a small number of interfaces, handles flooding poorly, etc. Kernelland PPP used to panic my boxes, although admittedly that was under 2.0R. ... Joe ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Joe Greco - Systems Administrator jgreco@ns.sol.net Solaria Public Access UNIX - Milwaukee, WI 414/546-7968