From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 4 00:43:27 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 043E9106566B for ; Mon, 4 Apr 2011 00:43:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) Received: from oproxy1-pub.bluehost.com (oproxy1-pub.bluehost.com [66.147.249.253]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id C3F658FC12 for ; Mon, 4 Apr 2011 00:43:26 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 14714 invoked by uid 0); 4 Apr 2011 00:43:26 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO box543.bluehost.com) (74.220.219.143) by cpoproxy1.bluehost.com with SMTP; 4 Apr 2011 00:43:26 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=default; d=apotheon.com; h=Date:From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Mail-Followup-To:References:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Content-Disposition:In-Reply-To:User-Agent:X-Identified-User; b=LvBbKWN+OA1/jHje11W90uA0WUA9Z5KYu+h3BzOCA2RzajGgKAG237FSDRwCYoOHJwXwDhdpvyYgrRBmZlCXqbIiEGCejNqkGBb8NyeJgCbVrHXTaVZnrzA/hcm8hmqw; Received: from c-24-8-180-234.hsd1.co.comcast.net ([24.8.180.234] helo=kukaburra.hydra) by box543.bluehost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Q6Xt7-0002lD-4N for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 03 Apr 2011 18:43:26 -0600 Received: by kukaburra.hydra (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Sun, 03 Apr 2011 18:30:59 -0600 Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2011 18:30:59 -0600 From: Chad Perrin To: FreeBSD Mailing List Message-ID: <20110404003059.GA96430@guilt.hydra> Mail-Followup-To: FreeBSD Mailing List References: <20110402201441.GA2996@thought.org> <20110402234643.GD4792@thought.org> <7C870049-A789-4AD0-97FF-9BBC581CCBD0@d3photography.com> <20110403013059.GB18031@thought.org> <20110403034359.7ac8d116.freebsd@edvax.de> <20110403154626.GD92121@guilt.hydra> <20110404013750.a3bcee50.freebsd@edvax.de> <20110404001548.GA96327@guilt.hydra> <20110404023353.ccfd1998.freebsd@edvax.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="ikeVEW9yuYc//A+q" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20110404023353.ccfd1998.freebsd@edvax.de> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Identified-User: {2737:box543.bluehost.com:apotheon:apotheon.org} {sentby:smtp auth 24.8.180.234 authed with ren@apotheon.org} Subject: Re: am i back up....??? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Apr 2011 00:43:27 -0000 --ikeVEW9yuYc//A+q Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, Apr 04, 2011 at 02:33:53AM +0200, Polytropon wrote: > On Sun, 3 Apr 2011 18:15:48 -0600, Chad Perrin > wrote: > > I've seen Roundcube do this crap. It does *not* make me happy when > > trying to skim through emails quickly -- and it can be bad when > > reading more closely, too. >=20 > You're fully correct, it may not be the best solution for power users. My point is more that it's not the best solution for people whose emails might ever be read by "power users", or anyone else who, y'know, reads email discussions. > > In this case, an IMAP-capable *local* client program would be much > better. With local caching, you can also improve speed. And even > programs with good keyboard support are possible, even programs for use > in text mode do exist (a welcome solution for blind users). =2E . . like Mutt. Yeah, I know it. >=20 > Sadly, my dear customers wanted web mail, and they insisted on > RoundCube, so they got it. They're slow in thinkind and reading, slower > in typing, so the program speed is still too fast for them. That's all > the magic behind the story. :-) Well . . . I guess if someone demands a crappy program, you either give it to them or effectively convince them to get it from someone else. I just don't really think it's a great idea to bring up software that makes communication difficult without being prompted for it when giving suggestions for how people should do things. --=20 Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] --ikeVEW9yuYc//A+q Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.14 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAk2ZEUMACgkQ9mn/Pj01uKWH8QCggdEHOoV8OnWJfIkCrkTE7sMA zIEAoITxUyqdcTHtsgdyEfz4XtuUidtw =liYC -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --ikeVEW9yuYc//A+q--