From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Sep 8 22:35:01 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 47C8F16A494 for ; Sat, 8 Sep 2007 22:35:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.192.90]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D729E13C4B4 for ; Sat, 8 Sep 2007 22:35:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from TEDSDESK (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.197.130]) by mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with SMTP id l88MYvst084286; Sat, 8 Sep 2007 15:35:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: , "RW" Date: Sat, 8 Sep 2007 15:35:58 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1896 In-Reply-To: <46E30D73.3000603@tundraware.com> Importance: Normal Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: ADSL Bandwidth Monitoring X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 08 Sep 2007 22:35:01 -0000 > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Tim Daneliuk > Sent: Saturday, September 08, 2007 2:01 PM > To: RW > Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: ADSL Bandwidth Monitoring > > > RW wrote: > > On Sat, 08 Sep 2007 15:27:38 -0500 > > Tim Daneliuk wrote: > > > >> Amitabh Kant wrote: > >>> On 9/8/07, Bahman M. wrote: > >>>> I tested the connection by downloading 2~3 files simultaneously > >>>> and used 'bmon' as Mel suggested in another reply (thanks to > >>>> him). As I'd already guessed the RX don't get bigger than 30~40% > >>>> of the expected bandwidth. I performed the test with some other > >>>> files and there was no difference. > >>>> > >>>> Thanks, > >>>> > >>>> Bahman > >>> The bandwidth being advertised by your ISP would be the maximum > >>> thoughput allowed on your DSL lines with multiple DSL users sharing > >>> the same bandwidth, something that is generally known as contention > >>> ratio. > >>> > >>> See this link: > >>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Contention_ratio > >>> > >>> Amitabh > >> But you should be able to hit the advertised bandwidth. To the best > >> of my knowledge, DSL itself is NOT a shared medium. It is a point-to- > >> point technology from your premise to the Central Office. The > >> bandwidth *behind* the CO may be shared, but should be so large > >> as to not be a bottleneck. > > > > It depends on your circumstances. Some people are constrained by > > contention ratio some aren't. Some ISPs offer a better ratio for a > > more expensive accounts. > > I don't understand this. If the actual DSL circuit is point-to-point - > i.e., not shared between the premise and the DSLAM in the CO, just > exactly *where* is the contention occuring? Inside the ISP's router. However even cheap ISP routers you can buy off Ebay for a couple grand have enough bandwidth to route between multiple 100BaseT connections. For example the 7206 has 2 800Mbt backplanes. That would mean you could run 500 1.5Mbt DSL customers at full bore to a server on your local network before contention would set in. And an ISP with that many customers can afford a more powerful router than a couple K used 7206. The upshot is his ISP doesen't know how to troubleshoot DSL. Ted