From owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Tue Mar 20 20:32:10 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE9C13D5 for ; Tue, 20 Mar 2018 20:32:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from yuri@rawbw.com) Received: from mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (mailman.ysv.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::50:5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 497FE865A0 for ; Tue, 20 Mar 2018 20:32:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from yuri@rawbw.com) Received: by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) id 0A8B83D0; Tue, 20 Mar 2018 20:32:10 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED6933CF for ; Tue, 20 Mar 2018 20:32:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from yuri@rawbw.com) Received: from shell1.rawbw.com (shell1.rawbw.com [198.144.192.42]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 830788659C for ; Tue, 20 Mar 2018 20:32:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from yuri@rawbw.com) Received: from yv.noip.me (c-24-4-131-132.hsd1.ca.comcast.net [24.4.131.132]) (authenticated bits=0) by shell1.rawbw.com (8.15.1/8.15.1) with ESMTPSA id w2KKW67C084757 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Tue, 20 Mar 2018 13:32:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from yuri@rawbw.com) X-Authentication-Warning: shell1.rawbw.com: Host c-24-4-131-132.hsd1.ca.comcast.net [24.4.131.132] claimed to be yv.noip.me Subject: Re: Not much reason to have */R-cran-* ports To: "ports@freebsd.org" References: <791f8a7f-7f3e-2070-0be3-50494b1b2801@rawbw.com> <5AB15109.8010703@grosbein.net> From: Yuri Message-ID: <03cf592e-fd94-0228-8469-c9076583864f@rawbw.com> Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2018 13:32:05 -0700 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <5AB15109.8010703@grosbein.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Language: en-US X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.25 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2018 20:32:10 -0000 On 03/20/18 11:20, Eugene Grosbein wrote: > It is a bit funny you are bothered on 250 R-cran-* ports when we have 1908 p5-* ports, > 964 py-* ports, 600 rubygem-* ports and 280 hs-* ports in the single ports/devel category. > > Are you planning to ban and remove p5 ports too? Most of them should be from CPAN. > We had BSDPAN for some time even... You are missing the key differences: 1. Python and perl ports represent individually run software with their own executables, when R doesn't. R packages are only useful in the context of R, as building blocks of larger R programs only runnable in R environment. R packages are much more dependent on environment. 2. With python, there is a hope of having all major software pieces in ports. With R there is no such hope. There are thousands of individual small R packages, while we only have 250 in ports with no hope or reason to add another few thousands. Now, if I want to use some R package should I look it up in ports and try to port if it is missing? Of course not, I will just install it from R. It's much easier this way, Yuri