From owner-svn-ports-all@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 27 13:23:37 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: svn-ports-all@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4B048425; Thu, 27 Mar 2014 13:23:37 +0000 (UTC) Received: from shepard.synsport.net (mail.synsport.com [208.69.230.148]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1A7B9F96; Thu, 27 Mar 2014 13:23:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.0.20] (unknown [130.255.19.191]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by shepard.synsport.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C16E843B96; Thu, 27 Mar 2014 08:23:15 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <53342633.2090409@marino.st> Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2014 14:22:59 +0100 From: John Marino User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.3.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Alexey Dokuchaev , marino@freebsd.org Subject: Re: svn commit: r347539 - in head: biology/genpak biology/rasmol cad/chipmunk databases/typhoon databases/xmbase-grok devel/asl devel/flick devel/happydoc devel/ixlib devel/p5-Penguin-Easy editors/axe ... References: <201403082226.s28MQMtI079354@svn.freebsd.org> <20140327111602.GA57802@FreeBSD.org> <20140327125909.6b102c8d@nemysis3now> <20140327125136.GC93483@FreeBSD.org> <5334201D.8060704@marino.st> <20140327131819.GE93483@FreeBSD.org> In-Reply-To: <20140327131819.GE93483@FreeBSD.org> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: svn-ports-head@freebsd.org, Rusmir Dusko , Antoine Brodin , svn-ports-all@freebsd.org, ports-committers@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: svn-ports-all@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list Reply-To: marino@freebsd.org List-Id: SVN commit messages for the ports tree List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2014 13:23:37 -0000 On 3/27/2014 14:18, Alexey Dokuchaev wrote: > On Thu, Mar 27, 2014 at 01:57:01PM +0100, John Marino wrote: >> On 3/27/2014 13:51, Alexey Dokuchaev wrote: >>> However, I do believe that we need to have a more formal set of rules when >>> it comes to ports deprecation (and subsequent removal), esp. given how >>> small is probation period now (typically one or two months). >> >> why is short probation period a problem? > > Because I feel that two months still lie within three sigmas, while six > months is safe enough. Safe enough from what exactly? If you give people 3 extra months, they just squander 3 extra months. There is zero long term impact. You keep conveniently not acknowledging that most of the candidates on the deprecation list fully deserve to be on that list and have been ignored for years. 3 more months is just not necessary. > >> "svn revert" brings it right back if somebody cares enough to resurrect >> it. [...] >> I'd bet 99% of these nobody hears a peep about when they are gone. For >> the remaining 1%: version control is there for them. Resurrection is a >> sign the port is actually wanted. > > Yeah, except that people are not always care to perform archaeology that > is in order when they're adding new port over previously removed (example: > `x11-themes/nimbus'; I'm still not sure what is the best way to clean this > mess up). I'm sure this normally works out fine though. John