From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 21 13:45:35 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D77716A500 for ; Mon, 21 Jan 2008 13:45:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jdc@parodius.com) Received: from mx01.sc1.parodius.com (mx01.sc1.parodius.com [72.20.106.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 91ACD13C44B for ; Mon, 21 Jan 2008 13:45:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jdc@parodius.com) Received: by mx01.sc1.parodius.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 6F4121CC033; Mon, 21 Jan 2008 05:45:35 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2008 05:45:35 -0800 From: Jeremy Chadwick To: Toomas Aas Message-ID: <20080121134535.GA42701@eos.sc1.parodius.com> References: <47949811.1080505@raad.tartu.ee> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <47949811.1080505@raad.tartu.ee> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.16 (2007-06-09) Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: NO_ knobs in /etc/make.conf X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2008 13:45:35 -0000 On Mon, Jan 21, 2008 at 03:03:13PM +0200, Toomas Aas wrote: > In earlier releases, /etc/make.conf had various NO_ knobs such as > NO_SENDMAIL or NO_IPFILTER to avoid building specific parts of the system > during buildworld. In FreeBSD 7 they seem to be gone? At least they are not > listed in /usr/share/examples/etc/make.conf, or make.conf(5). I'm > specifically curious about NO_SENDMAIL. With earlier FreeBSD versions I > added this to make.conf after installing Postfix, thinking that this way > installworld won't overwrite my Postfix port. Is this no longer necessary? Regarding NO_SENDMAIL and NO_IPFILER: Both of these appear to have been renamed: WITHOUT_SENDMAIL and WITHOUT_IPFILTER. You can poke around at things in src/tools/build/options/ and see what's what. However, I'm not sure how these play a role with world right now. I'm not entirely familiar with how (if at all) src/tools/build/options/ actually controls buildworld/isntallworld features. Someone else will have to comment on that. Regarding concerns over mailer selection: Which mailer gets used for commands like sendmail(8), newaliases(1), mailq(8) and others is enitrely based on /etc/mail/mailer.conf. The actual binaries on FreeBSD of /usr/sbin/sendmail, /usr/bin/newaliases, etc. are all wrappers that read /etc/mail/mailer.conf to determine what program to actually execute. So it's "generally safe" to have both sendmail (the MTA/MDA) from the base system installed at the same time as postfix. -- | Jeremy Chadwick jdc at parodius.com | | Parodius Networking http://www.parodius.com/ | | UNIX Systems Administrator Mountain View, CA, USA | | Making life hard for others since 1977. PGP: 4BD6C0CB |