From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 11 03:44:10 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2EC7616A4CE for ; Fri, 11 Mar 2005 03:44:10 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp11.wanadoo.fr (smtp11.wanadoo.fr [193.252.22.31]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E060E43D53 for ; Fri, 11 Mar 2005 03:44:09 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from atkielski.anthony@wanadoo.fr) Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf1101.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 234041C0008C for ; Fri, 11 Mar 2005 04:44:09 +0100 (CET) Received: from pix.atkielski.com (ASt-Lambert-111-2-1-3.w81-50.abo.wanadoo.fr [81.50.80.3]) by mwinf1101.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id E98051C00086 for ; Fri, 11 Mar 2005 04:44:08 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20050311034408956.E98051C00086@mwinf1101.wanadoo.fr Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2005 04:44:08 +0100 From: Anthony Atkielski X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1735368246.20050311044408@wanadoo.fr> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20050311025906.GD72527@hub.freebsd.org> References: <751280160.20050311034539@wanadoo.fr> <20050311025906.GD72527@hub.freebsd.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Clock slew vulnerability in FreeBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2005 03:44:10 -0000 Kris Kennaway writes: > Isn't this a non-problem if you use ntpd? Unfortunately, no, because the TCP stacks on most systems don't use the disciplined clock provided by NTP for the timestamps. Instead they use a clock based directly on the RTC, which reveals a characteristic skew that is unique to each machine. If the stacks used the NTP-disciplined actual time of day, plus perhaps a randomizing factor to avoid revealing patterns, this technique would become useless. -- Anthony