From owner-freebsd-chat Tue Oct 6 13:21:25 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA08129 for freebsd-chat-outgoing; Tue, 6 Oct 1998 13:21:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from lariat.lariat.org (lariat.lariat.org [206.100.185.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA08118 for ; Tue, 6 Oct 1998 13:21:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from brett@lariat.org) Received: (from brett@localhost) by lariat.lariat.org (8.8.8/8.8.6) id OAA15512; Tue, 6 Oct 1998 14:20:57 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <4.1.19981006141546.0430a1d0@mail.lariat.org> X-Sender: brett@mail.lariat.org X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Tue, 06 Oct 1998 14:19:47 -0600 To: Wes Peters From: Brett Glass Subject: Re: RMS on UDI Cc: Jerry Hicks , FreeBSD Chat In-Reply-To: <361A6C34.4AD93BAE@softweyr.com> References: <4.1.19981006085422.04379a10@mail.lariat.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org At 01:15 PM 10/6/98 -0600, Wes Peters wrote: >I share Brett's (and RMS' -- imagine THEM agreeing on something!) >reservations about Intel's motivation in this. Given what I now know about UDI, I don't have many reservations. It looks like an open spec, akin to the AT&T ABIs. RMS, however, thinks the whole CONCEPT of sharing drivers with non-open-source OSes is heresy. Especially if -- heaven forbid! -- the manufacturer doesn't supply source. >It'll be interesting to see if Microsoft tries to horn in on this and sway >the UDI spec into agreeing with NT as well. There's somebody to be leery >of, brothers and sisters. Well, Microsoft drivers by nature are very different. They'd have to build software "shims" which would slow the UDI drivers down. And you'd still need special ".INF" files, etc. So, I think Microsoft will just put more pressure on the hardware vendors to make their hardware Microsoft-specific. They've already been successful with many modems, scanners, and printers. --Brett To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message