From owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Thu Aug 15 17:51:12 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F584B0F90 for ; Thu, 15 Aug 2019 17:51:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kob6558@gmail.com) Received: from mail-oi1-x236.google.com (mail-oi1-x236.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::236]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "GTS CA 1O1" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 468YsW2yx4z4Byl for ; Thu, 15 Aug 2019 17:51:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kob6558@gmail.com) Received: by mail-oi1-x236.google.com with SMTP id l12so2878870oil.1 for ; Thu, 15 Aug 2019 10:51:11 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=SW4m1Z9/8PQ2v9EjVkiaLBkMokBNmMYMaICy84UuTqs=; b=NlJ15fjgRDAXQYdHAQ84yQ/KA7PSc7cOG3e4q2mwfT7xu7Gxr8THx+4Ue34VpDoWlL U4I51kckX7nbMVGg/2ppXiaoa6TUBgEGRjqhlsxdqOAJoo0xxEoI7fd2vh6jMzyWFSuq 3ScksITMYBOOB6UV9qPp5AKsFqYqbo0OPyUTcjz6aO1yPhCki1WNw78p2EjlK18yO0la L2ej4OE5EaVHE29vLJzA27BkNeCODTxWMESJj1iLjCdiMTCVbUY/CUPWqgI3l+w9Sm9n do0GyqbwGg4IwYbcTJZZVy3Y9LVvgTFnB/VMpQyUFyqVlLIiy4rDZCHeYWPGNdEypMxq mUmQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=SW4m1Z9/8PQ2v9EjVkiaLBkMokBNmMYMaICy84UuTqs=; b=fRRIkzADjOPfUcQOsq93jmRV4NquCch1wHYgj+Pllzfyp0/VaVvhsou4IYyqANcbOV kx7Hv2gHOQBP2F4ke6ohl9bJ1p38Qdsb1XDNJkA3YJBZ1nLelxjyKQqesO5iLtc1zvjc 5EN4A49Xr8tM9puUSCSgp2MsRDpjoQFmEOG8c6CZiZV4y8HjFMOOL8RJCkh42O0ymtgD PNwsrE3dwyD3e07tYmx7ryR1Fn9nzVIlqwWYnKGtZAkDkALAKRkXj9oHlBrF/tbOIXYk on8HSN+tmQ2JT7Rb49QXV7LN6tdF0jeioQFfT2N5FtFmDtaHGoqcB9EkRZ3+MZEvxwLJ 9tiA== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAX0MElonjB+I9uKE0LDKRUtYG6WEW7RwdV+yks7CBL9hpcunI2q yrH/xHefIOiTfqjYmJjB/2JGht8Nhhk8K6jBkMYZxqDLiRs= X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqw0tN+HFoMCYNIJ3l9vViVdwvo3mA3cEWY/hdBtDjAtK0a9MaZ6APEx+d56wxiT5rGHqNhixh70Am03Ucx6yLM= X-Received: by 2002:aca:5c57:: with SMTP id q84mr2440497oib.176.1565891469794; Thu, 15 Aug 2019 10:51:09 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <0eeb4921-b8a5-f0f8-f568-80b240a73aec@hawaii-pacific.com> In-Reply-To: From: Kevin Oberman Date: Thu, 15 Aug 2019 10:50:53 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: firefox To: "Jack L." Cc: Miroslav Lachman <000.fbsd@quip.cz>, Mark Millard via freebsd-ports , "@lbutlr" X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 468YsW2yx4z4Byl X-Spamd-Bar: --- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=gmail.com header.s=20161025 header.b=NlJ15fjg; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=gmail.com; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of kob6558@gmail.com designates 2607:f8b0:4864:20::236 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=kob6558@gmail.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-3.70 / 15.00]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip6:2607:f8b0:4000::/36:c]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[gmail.com:+]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[gmail.com,none]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-1.00)[-0.997,0]; FORGED_SENDER(0.30)[rkoberman@gmail.com,kob6558@gmail.com]; FREEMAIL_TO(0.00)[gmail.com]; IP_SCORE(0.00)[ip: (-9.50), ipnet: 2607:f8b0::/32(-2.96), asn: 15169(-2.38), country: US(-0.05)]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+,1:+,2:~]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2607:f8b0::/32, country:US]; FROM_NEQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[rkoberman@gmail.com,kob6558@gmail.com]; DWL_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[gmail.com.dwl.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[gmail.com:s=20161025]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[4]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[multipart/alternative,text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-ports@freebsd.org]; IP_SCORE_FREEMAIL(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[6.3.2.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.2.0.0.4.6.8.4.0.b.8.f.7.0.6.2.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.29 X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Aug 2019 17:51:12 -0000 On Thu, Aug 15, 2019 at 1:29 AM Jack L. wrote: > On Wed, Aug 14, 2019 at 1:32 PM Miroslav Lachman <000.fbsd@quip.cz> wrote= : > > > > @lbutlr wrote on 2019/08/12 07:08: > > > On 11 Aug 2019, at 20:29, bruce wrote: > > >> I have tried firefox. It crashes regularly > > > > > > That doesn=E2=80=99t sound right. If Firefox is crashing a lot there = is > something not quite right with your system or install. > > > > I am using Seamonkey on everyday basis. Sometimes my computer is runnin= g > > 20+ days without reboot and Seamonkey running all the time with 5 > > windows and total count of 200+ openned tabs. No crashes at all. > > Firefox crashes instantly after start (even if I delete its profile) > > Palemoon, Qupzilla, Iridium crashes few times a day. > > LibreOffice, Gimp and other apps are running fine. Only browsers are so > > unstable these days. And as you can read I am not alone with this kind > > of experience so I don't think it's just my computer problem. > > > > Miroslav Lachman > > yup, they don't make browsers like they used to I'll probably regret opening this potential can of worms, but I find these reports of instability in Firefox surprising. I have used Firfox as my web browser on FreeBSD for many year, going back to at least Firefox v3 and probably v2. I can't say I've never had it crash, but in the past year I can't recall a single crash on FreeBSD. It has been rock solid. So why is it failing or some people? (I'll note in passing that Firefox has been somewhat less stable on Windows 7 where it seems to crash every couple of weeks. Possibilities include hardware, especially graphics, web sites visited, and Firefox configuration. Lots of tabs may be an issue as I try to keep my open tabs under 20. I can't imagine trying to deal with 200+, but it must eat a lot of resources. That may be tied to the failures reported. -- Kevin Oberman, Part time kid herder and retired Network Engineer E-mail: rkoberman@gmail.com PGP Fingerprint: D03FB98AFA78E3B78C1694B318AB39EF1B055683