From owner-cvs-all Sun Oct 8 13:12:20 2000 Delivered-To: cvs-all@freebsd.org Received: from rover.village.org (rover.village.org [204.144.255.49]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EBA9A37B503; Sun, 8 Oct 2000 13:12:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from harmony.village.org (harmony.village.org [10.0.0.6]) by rover.village.org (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id e98KCBY04417; Sun, 8 Oct 2000 14:12:12 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (localhost.village.org [127.0.0.1]) by harmony.village.org (8.9.3/8.8.3) with ESMTP id OAA04322; Sun, 8 Oct 2000 14:12:11 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <200010082012.OAA04322@harmony.village.org> To: Matt Dillon Subject: Re: cvs commit: src/etc inetd.conf Cc: Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven , cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 08 Oct 2000 12:56:19 PDT." <200010081956.e98JuJB00920@earth.backplane.com> References: <200010081956.e98JuJB00920@earth.backplane.com> <200010081931.e98JVFV00782@earth.backplane.com> <20001008200835.C73177@lucifer.bart.nl> <20001008192311.B73177@lucifer.bart.nl> <200010081245.FAA23881@freefall.freebsd.org> <200010081713.LAA02405@harmony.village.org> <20001008192311.B73177@lucifer.bart.nl> <200010081747.LAA02635@harmony.village.org> <200010081836.MAA03208@harmony.village.org> <200010081942.NAA03812@harmony.village.org> Date: Sun, 08 Oct 2000 14:12:11 -0600 From: Warner Losh Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In message <200010081956.e98JuJB00920@earth.backplane.com> Matt Dillon writes: : We're kinda in a 'changing of the guard' situation in regards to : telnet, rsh, rcp, rlogin, verses ssh. And we have been for about a : year. The only thing holding the process up has been the patent issue : and that is now gone. Right. : Even if we don't disable these old services by default in 4.x, I think : we should absolutely disable them when the 5.0 release comes around. ssh : is the only acceptable solution for a UNIX sysadmin in today's world. I agree. To be clear, I do not advocate removing the binaries. : Do any committers have any objections to me disabling ntalk, finger, : telnet, rsh, and ftp by default in -current? And sandboxing 'named' by : default in -current? I'd like to review any changes in this area. Maybe we should move this to arch@ and talk about it there. Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message