From owner-freebsd-security@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 2 13:10:06 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-security@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 20B671065672 for ; Mon, 2 Mar 2009 13:10:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mail@maxlor.com) Received: from mxout006.mail.hostpoint.ch (mxout006.mail.hostpoint.ch [217.26.49.185]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C9E928FC15 for ; Mon, 2 Mar 2009 13:10:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mail@maxlor.com) Received: from [10.0.2.10] (helo=asmtp001.mail.hostpoint.ch) by mxout006.mail.hostpoint.ch with esmtp (Exim 4.69 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1Le7uG-000Awz-8q; Mon, 02 Mar 2009 14:10:04 +0100 Received: from [82.136.101.181] (helo=maxlor.mine.nu) by asmtp001.mail.hostpoint.ch with esmtpa (Exim 4.69 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1Le7uE-000MQ1-Nw; Mon, 02 Mar 2009 14:10:02 +0100 Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by maxlor.mine.nu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C4872E5F0; Mon, 2 Mar 2009 14:10:02 +0100 (CET) X-Authenticated-Sender-Id: mail@maxlor.com X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at atlantis.intranet Received: from maxlor.mine.nu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (atlantis.intranet [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ekmvHPc9a635; Mon, 2 Mar 2009 14:10:02 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.10.159] (pub212004072186.fx-hfc.datazug.ch [212.4.72.186]) by maxlor.mine.nu (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id F03C52E5E7; Mon, 2 Mar 2009 14:10:01 +0100 (CET) From: Benjamin Lutz To: freebsd-security@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 2 Mar 2009 14:09:59 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.9 References: <20090302021415.GU5602@noncombatant.org> In-Reply-To: <20090302021415.GU5602@noncombatant.org> X-Face: $Ov27?7*N,h60fIEfNJdb!m,@#4T/d; 1hw|W0zvsHM(a$Yn6BYQ0^SEEXvi8>D`|V*F"=?utf-8?q?=5F+=0A=09R2?=@Aq>+mNb4`,'[[%z9v0Fa~]AD1}xQO3|>b.z&}l#R-_(P`?@Mz"kS; XC>Eti,i3>%@=?utf-8?q?g=3F=0A=094f?=,\c7|Ghwb&ky$b2PJ^\0b83NkLsFKv|smL/cI4UD%Tu8alAD MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200903021410.00093.mail@maxlor.com> Cc: Chris Palmer Subject: Re: OPIE considered insecure X-BeenThere: freebsd-security@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Security issues \[members-only posting\]" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 Mar 2009 13:10:06 -0000 On Monday 02 March 2009 03:14:15 Chris Palmer wrote: > Why are people logging into their remote servers from > assumed-untrustworthy clients at all? Because the inconvience of not using whatever service or data the server is providing is considered greater than the security risk. Cheers Benjamin