From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 24 11:16:03 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E0EC816A4CE for ; Wed, 24 Mar 2004 11:16:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from rwcrmhc13.comcast.net (rwcrmhc13.comcast.net [204.127.198.39]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BCB5043D6B for ; Wed, 24 Mar 2004 11:16:03 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from underway@comcast.net) Received: from localhost.localdomain (c-24-17-47-224.client.comcast.net[24.17.47.224]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc13) with ESMTP id <2004032419155901500rpp38e>; Wed, 24 Mar 2004 19:16:03 +0000 Received: from localhost.localdomain (localhost [127.0.0.1]) i2OJHsdj019281; Wed, 24 Mar 2004 11:17:54 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from underway@comcast.net) Received: (from jojo@localhost) by localhost.localdomain (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id i2OJHjla019280; Wed, 24 Mar 2004 11:17:45 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from underway@comcast.net) To: Kevin Kinsey References: <000a01c41159$505ab560$6400a8c0@laptop> <20040324171235.GB25716@archangel.daleco.biz> From: underway@comcast.net (Gary W. Swearingen) Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2004 11:17:45 -0800 In-Reply-To: <20040324171235.GB25716@archangel.daleco.biz> (Kevin Kinsey's message of "Wed, 24 Mar 2004 11:12:35 -0600") Message-ID: <26ad263vhi.d26@mail.comcast.net> User-Agent: Gnus/5.1002 (Gnus v5.10.2) XEmacs/21.4 (Reasonable Discussion, berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: total newbee questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2004 19:16:04 -0000 Kevin Kinsey writes: > If all you've got available > is /, then I feel your pain, for ed(1) and red(1) are somewhat > "like kicking dead whales down the beach" compared to something > more modern... :-) You can avoid that pain without making / much bigger by installing the editors/e3 port and moving /usr/local/bin/e3* to /bin/. You'll get fair "vi", "emacs", "pico", "wordstar", and "nedit" emulators, all in less than 13000 bytes. I'm sure ed(1) will be with us 'till the end, but I wish "e3" was also included in the base i386 FreeBSD. Or even a bigger (but small) "vi" editor clone that would work on all CPUs. There are several that seem negligibly small compared to much of the other stuff I see in /*bin/.