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Date:      Sat, 28 Aug 1999 17:14:18 -0700
From:      Kent Stewart <kstewart@3-cities.com>
To:        Evan Brastow <ebrastow@automatedemblem.com>
Cc:        "'Damien Tougas'" <dtougas@converging.net>, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: I HATE WINDOWS NT...
Message-ID:  <37C87B5A.7F2AEEAB@3-cities.com>
References:  <500E74157A46D211A87F006097295AFB090206@mail.automatedemblem.com>

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Evan Brastow wrote:
> 
> Kent wrote:
> 
> >> Any time the operator has no need to know.<<
> 
> Okay - fair enough. That doesn't apply to a company, then, as companies
> always need to know what is stored on their systems so that they do not find
> themselves liable for lawsuits, etc...

It applies to anyone that does work that has patent or security
requirements. For example, if you are involved in a special project
and you don't want your competitors to find out what is going on, you
certainly don't have curious people in the computer room. If you do,
your competitor may just beat you to market with your own product.

> 
> Just wanted to be sure we were on the same page :-)

It was a ding :).

Kent

> 
> Evan
> 
>                 -----Original Message-----
>                 From:   Kent Stewart [mailto:kstewart@3-cities.com]
>                 Sent:   Saturday, August 28, 1999 7:47 PM
>                 To:     Evan Brastow
>                 Cc:     'Damien Tougas'; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
>                 Subject:        Re: I HATE WINDOWS NT...
> 
>                 Evan Brastow wrote:
>                 >
>                 > kstewart@3-cities.com <mailto:kstewart@3-cities.com>
> wrote:
>                 >
>                 > >> Where I come from, that would be called spying and that
> is a federal
>                 > offense :).<<
>                 >
>                 > I'm curious about this. Since when did a company not have
> the right to do
>                 > anything it pleases with its own equipment, such as view
> employee files
>                 > stored on its computers?
> 
>                 Any time the operator has no need to know.
> 
>                 Kent
> 
>                 >
>                 > We enforce a policy here that states that users do not own
> the computers
>                 > they use at work. Where I come from, this is common sense.
> They also,
>                 > therefore, cannot expect any privacy if they put something
> they consider
>                 > confidential on our hard drives.
>                 >
>                 > Thanks,
>                 >
>                 > Evan
>                 >
>                 >                 -----Original Message-----
>                 >                 From:   Damien Tougas
> [mailto:dtougas@converging.net]
>                 >                 Sent:   Saturday, August 28, 1999 1:06 PM
>                 >                 To:     kstewart@3-cities.com
>                 >                 Cc:     freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
>                 >                 Subject:        Re: I HATE WINDOWS NT...
>                 >
>                 >                 > > Sorry, I know that this might not be
> the best place for
>                 > this,
>                 >                 > > but I need to vent to someone who
> might understand.  The
>                 > more
>                 >                 > > I use windows the more it makes me
> mad.
>                 >                 > >
>                 >                 > > What have I been bitten by today you
> might ask?  Why is
>                 > it the
>                 >                 > > 'administrator' cannot have access to
> user files without
>                 > explicitly
>                 >                 > > giving himself access rights?  This is
> creating an
>                 > administration
>                 >                 > > nightmare for me.  If only I had
> adequate command line
>                 > tools, I
>                 >                 > > could write a script that could take
> care of the
>                 > problem.  Of course
>                 >                 > > I could buy a command line app for
> about $300, but to
>                 > me, that tool
>                 >                 > > should be included by default with a
> server OS.
>                 >                 >
>                 >                 > Where I come from, that would be called
> spying and that is
>                 > a federal
>                 >                 > offense :).
>                 >
>                 >                 The situation is this:
>                 >                 I have a new hard drive that was
> previously used for user
>                 > files.  It has
>                 >                 filled up.  I purchased a new drive that
> is much larger, and
>                 > want to
>                 >                 now use this as my user file space.  The
> system will not let
>                 > me move
>                 >                 or copy files unless I am owner and have
> explicit read/write
>                 > access.  This
>                 >                 is just general system administration
> duties, not spying.
>                 >
>                 >                 > Have you tried giving yourself backup
> operator
>                 > priviledges. You can
>                 >                 > manage the files but not look at them.
>                 >
>                 >                 Does not work.  I bascially know how to
> acheive my goals,
>                 > the reason
>                 >                 for this post was to express my
> frustration when it comes to
>                 > getting
>                 >                 complex tasks done with a GUI, and very
> limited command line
>                 > tools.
>                 >                 It is just my way of showing a growing
> appreciation for my
>                 > FreeBSD
>                 >                 endeavours.
>                 >
>                 >                 I appreciate your input none the less.
>                 >
>                 >                 Damien Tougas.
>                 >
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> 
>                 --
>                 Kent Stewart
>                 Richland, WA
> 
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