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On 12 dec 2008, at 21:54, dick hoogendijk wrote:

> On Fri, 12 Dec 2008 21:35:59 +0100 (CET)
> Wojciech Puchar <wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> wrote:
>
>> They do this to hide their hardware faults that way - that's the true
>> reason they do this.
>>
>> With new hardware produced every year it MUST be buggy and certainly
>> there are thousands of hardware bugs.
>>
>> with "secret" drivers - they can easily hide them. AFAIK at least
>> half of their driver code are to do workaround of their hardware  
>> bugs.
>
> Your talking about things without providing any evidence as usual.
> It's just bollocks. NVidia has fabulous 3dgraphics cards and their
> drivers work very very well. At least they do on solaris (32/64bit).
>

...and Mac OSX and Linux and even Windows