From owner-svn-ports-all@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 27 14:47:08 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: svn-ports-all@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B7EC9EEF; Thu, 27 Mar 2014 14:47:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: from 0.mx.codelabs.ru (0.mx.codelabs.ru [144.206.233.71]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4C90CA36; Thu, 27 Mar 2014 14:47:08 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=codelabs.ru; s=three; h=Sender:In-Reply-To:Content-Type:MIME-Version:References:Message-ID:Subject:Cc:To:From:Date; bh=0Z7hZQKQhnGUyqm5l1yO+kfQk4F7S5qwpFm43Q57w/4=; b=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; Received: from void.codelabs.ru (void.codelabs.ru [144.206.233.66]) by 0.mx.codelabs.ru with esmtpsa (TLSv1.2:DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384:256) id 1WTBaE-0004Em-Bc; Thu, 27 Mar 2014 18:47:06 +0400 Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2014 18:47:02 +0400 From: Eygene Ryabinkin To: marino@freebsd.org Subject: Re: svn commit: r347539 - in head: biology/genpak biology/rasmol cad/chipmunk databases/typhoon databases/xmbase-grok devel/asl devel/flick devel/happydoc devel/ixlib devel/p5-Penguin-Easy editors/axe ... Message-ID: References: <201403082226.s28MQMtI079354@svn.freebsd.org> <20140327111602.GA57802@FreeBSD.org> <20140327125909.6b102c8d@nemysis3now> <20140327125136.GC93483@FreeBSD.org> <5334201D.8060704@marino.st> <20140327131819.GE93483@FreeBSD.org> <53342633.2090409@marino.st> <20140327134531.GA16245@FreeBSD.org> <53342D12.5060600@marino.st> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="/unnNtmY43mpUSKx" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <53342D12.5060600@marino.st> Sender: rea@codelabs.ru Cc: svn-ports-head@freebsd.org, Alexey Dokuchaev , Rusmir Dusko , Antoine Brodin , ports-committers@freebsd.org, svn-ports-all@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: svn-ports-all@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: SVN commit messages for the ports tree List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2014 14:47:08 -0000 --/unnNtmY43mpUSKx Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable John, good day. Thu, Mar 27, 2014 at 02:52:18PM +0100, John Marino wrote: > On 3/27/2014 14:45, Alexey Dokuchaev wrote: > >=20 > > I am acknowledging this fact; I just don't see a point of removing ports > > that build and package fine just because they are unmaintained. I am n= ot > > saying that all of those ports are useful for me, but once in a while I= 'm > > faced with the fact that port I need right now was deprecated and remov= ed > > for no real reason. I don't like that. >=20 > Well, one good reason would be if the port is not staged. I got the > idea that you expect random committers to stage the remaining ports, > maintained or not. >=20 > I think it's perfectly legitimate to look at an unmaintained port that > needs staging and say, "You know what? it's not worth it, nobody cares > about it, just set it to deprecate and kill it. Why should *I* care > about this port if nobody else in 12 years has cared about it. Please, try to look from the user POV: he doesn't care if the port is staged, he just needs it. And it is removed. And some other random OS has 'whack install whazoo' and it works. Guess, what will happen after some such occurrences of removed ports? "Nobody cares" from maintainer community is different thing that "nobody cares" from user community and, I fear, that we have no means of determining if the latter is true or not. --=20 Eygene Ryabinkin ,,,^..^,,, [ Life's unfair - but root password helps! | codelabs.ru ] [ 82FE 06BC D497 C0DE 49EC 4FF0 16AF 9EAE 8152 ECFB | freebsd.org ] --/unnNtmY43mpUSKx Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.22 (FreeBSD) iL4EABEKAGYFAlM0OeZfFIAAAAAALgAoaXNzdWVyLWZwckBub3RhdGlvbnMub3Bl bnBncC5maWZ0aGhvcnNlbWFuLm5ldDgyRkUwNkJDRDQ5N0MwREU0OUVDNEZGMDE2 QUY5RUFFODE1MkVDRkIACgkQFq+eroFS7Pu6fQD/efX7xH0E/qNUpzE6CwL7OmOs zke+NKhPG5MsSPT6nogBAIecHB2MuZpNJcolehJvQKZ6x3PEhNUumih0uB/svLtH =LjJC -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --/unnNtmY43mpUSKx--