From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Nov 13 23:47:21 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 745CF16A4CE for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 23:47:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from mizar.origin-it.net (mizar.origin-it.net [194.8.96.234]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B0E4F43F93 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 23:47:19 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from helge.oldach@atosorigin.com) Received: from matar.hbg.de.int.atosorigin.com (dehsfw3e.origin-it.net [194.8.96.68])hAE7lHUQ060846 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 08:47:18 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from helge.oldach@atosorigin.com) Received: from galaxy.hbg.de.ao-srv.com (galaxy.hbg.de.ao-srv.com [161.89.20.4])ESMTP id hAE7lH35046273 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 08:47:17 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from helge.oldach@atosorigin.com) Received: (from hmo@localhost) by galaxy.hbg.de.ao-srv.com (8.9.3p2/8.9.3/hmo30mar03) id IAA16901 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Fri, 14 Nov 2003 08:47:16 +0100 (MET) Message-Id: <200311140747.IAA16901@galaxy.hbg.de.ao-srv.com> In-Reply-To: <200311121658.hACGwPVJ045423@lurza.secnetix.de> from Oliver Fromme at "Nov 12, 2003 5:58:25 pm" To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2003 08:47:15 +0100 (MET) From: Helge Oldach X-Address: Atos Origin GmbH, Friesenstraße 13, D-20097 Hamburg, Germany X-Phone: +49 40 7886 7464, Fax: +49 40 7886 9464, Mobile: +49 160 4782517 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: Re: kernel panic on jailed sshd - 4.9-release X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2003 07:47:21 -0000 Oliver Fromme: >Marc G. Fournier wrote: > > On Tue, 11 Nov 2003, Oliver Fromme wrote: > > > Kovács János wrote: > > > > Just installed 4.9-RELEASE with jailed sshd over a null-mounted > > > > (bin, dev,etc,usr) dirs crashing. > > > It's well-known that NULLFS (as well as UNIONFS) are unstable in > > > FreeBSD 4.x and can cause crashes. >In most cases when machines crash and NULLFS is in use, the latter is >causing it. So far the list's general consensus appears to have been that NULLFS is stable when file systems had been mounted read-only. Has that changed? Or is Oliver's statement an over-generalization? Helge