From owner-svn-ports-all@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 27 15:18:17 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: svn-ports-all@freebsd.org Received: by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix, from userid 1033) id 95BE0AF8; Thu, 27 Mar 2014 15:18:17 +0000 (UTC) Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2014 15:18:17 +0000 From: Alexey Dokuchaev To: Eygene Ryabinkin Subject: Re: svn commit: r347539 - in head: biology/genpak biology/rasmol cad/chipmunk databases/typhoon databases/xmbase-grok devel/asl devel/flick devel/happydoc devel/ixlib devel/p5-Penguin-Easy editors/axe ... Message-ID: <20140327151817.GA49042@FreeBSD.org> References: <201403082226.s28MQMtI079354@svn.freebsd.org> <20140327111602.GA57802@FreeBSD.org> <20140327125909.6b102c8d@nemysis3now> <20140327125136.GC93483@FreeBSD.org> <5334201D.8060704@marino.st> <20140327131819.GE93483@FreeBSD.org> <53342633.2090409@marino.st> <20140327134531.GA16245@FreeBSD.org> <53342D12.5060600@marino.st> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.22 (2013-10-16) Cc: svn-ports-head@freebsd.org, Antoine Brodin , Rusmir Dusko , marino@freebsd.org, ports-committers@freebsd.org, svn-ports-all@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: svn-ports-all@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: SVN commit messages for the ports tree List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2014 15:18:17 -0000 On Thu, Mar 27, 2014 at 06:47:02PM +0400, Eygene Ryabinkin wrote: > Thu, Mar 27, 2014 at 02:52:18PM +0100, John Marino wrote: > > I think it's perfectly legitimate to look at an unmaintained port that > > needs staging and say, "You know what? it's not worth it, nobody cares > > about it, just set it to deprecate and kill it. Why should *I* care > > about this port if nobody else in 12 years has cared about it. > > Please, try to look from the user POV: he doesn't care if the port is > staged, he just needs it. And it is removed. And some other random > OS has 'whack install whazoo' and it works. Guess, what will happen > after some such occurrences of removed ports? Exactly. I have a bunch of friends who started to use FreeBSD over some GNU/Linux distro precisely for the fact that we have sooo many software in our ports. IMHO we should keep them as long as they build. Argument about that vast fraction of them might not be runnable looks reasonable upfront, but fades away once you realize that overall quality of 3rdparty stuff is very far from perfect. At the same time, buildable port is way more motivating to fix it; lack thereof means non-zero chances of going away from FreeBSD for something else. :-( ./danfe