From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Mar 8 23:22:59 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from pi.yip.org (yip.org [199.45.111.121]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7BBB737B526 for ; Wed, 8 Mar 2000 23:22:55 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from melange@yip.org) Received: from localhost (melange@localhost) by pi.yip.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id CAA34092 for ; Thu, 9 Mar 2000 02:22:54 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from melange@yip.org) Date: Thu, 9 Mar 2000 02:22:54 -0500 (EST) From: Bob K X-Sender: melange@localhost To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: OT: Cooling hard drives In-Reply-To: <20000309021338.A38484@evil.2y.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I think there's more "professional" solutions out there at this point, but I've found that a case fan screwed on to the heatsinks salvaged from two dead CPU fans sitting on top of the drive works rather nicely. On Thu, 9 Mar 2000, Coleman Kane wrote: > You may need to air-cool that hard drive, sounds like it's overheating and > messing up. > > --cokane > > Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group had the audacity to say: > > In message <200003070525.VAA09958@cytosine.dhs.org>, Bhishan Hemrajani > > writes: > > > I sometimes have this problem with my pc. > > > > > > Usually, a good kick will get it to boot. > > > > > > Sometimes on laptops and stuff the hard drive cable gets > > > loose or something. Or, it's a bad hard drive. > > > > > > Try giving is a shove. > > > > > > --bhishan > > > > It's quite possibly a hardware problem though I'm not entirely > > convinced that it's a fatal hardware problem. I have an IDE drive, wd2 > > below, > > > > wdc0 at 0x1f0-0x1f7 irq 14 flags 0xa0ffa0ff on isa > > wdc0: unit 0 (wd0): , DMA, 32-bit, multi-block-16 > > wd0: 2014MB (4124736 sectors), 4092 cyls, 16 heads, 63 S/T, 512 B/S > > wdc1 at 0x170-0x177 irq 15 flags 0xa0ffa0ff on isa > > wdc1: unit 0 (wd2): , DMA, 32-bit, multi-block-16 > > wd2: 2441MB (4999680 sectors), 4960 cyls, 16 heads, 63 S/T, 512 B/S > > > > that occasionally has these errors under heavy load conditions, like > > fscking a badly damaged filesystem. It's done this since it was brand > > new over four years ago. The Western Digital diagnostics (just checked > > last week) reported no grown defects, and the Western Digital firmware > > utility says it doesn't need a firmware upgrade. > > > > Interestingly enough, the errors weren't bad enough to halt the system > > or abort an fsck. > > > > Could it be a software problem? Maybe, maybe not. Notice wd0. It too > > is a Western Digital drive, just older. It's had no problems, ever. > > > > Having said all that, I had a couple of WD Caviar WDAC280 drives that > > would cause an error message once every two to four years. When they > > had errors, the Western Digital diagnostics would fix them up and > > they'd run happily for another few years. Each drive had a couple of > > grown defects. I retired them after 8 years of service. One is still > > running in a Windows 3.1 PC, 11 years after I purchased it and the > > other serves quite well as a paper weight and would probably run nicely > > if it was still in use. > > > > > > Regards, Phone: (250)387-8437 > > Cy Schubert Fax: (250)387-5766 > > Team Leader, Sun/DEC Team Internet: Cy.Schubert@osg.gov.bc.ca > > Open Systems Group, ITSD, ISTA > > Province of BC > > "COBOL IS A WASTE OF CARDS." > > > > > > > > > I've had the same problem. Most people have told me that I have to > > > > replace the hard drive. > > > > > > > > I never had the problem before 3.4. Maybe that's just a coincidence, > > > > though. > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Chris Byrnes (CB5820) > > > > Network Engineer, High Stability Internet Services > > > > http://www.highstability.com > > > > > > > > On Mon, 6 Mar 2000, Archie Cobbs wrote: > > > > > > > > > My laptop running 3.4-RELEASE decided it doesn't want to boot. > > > > > It was uncleanly shut down via the power switch by someone > > > > > who thought they were shutting down a different machine. > > > > > > > > > > Now when it boots, running fsck gives this result: > > > > > > > > > > > chip0: rev 0x01 on pci0.0.0 > > > > > > chip1: rev 0x02 on pci0.7.0 > > > > > > ide_pci0: rev 0x01 on pci0.7.1 > > > > > > ... > > > > > > wdc0 at 0x1f0-0x3f7 irq 14 on isa > > > > > > wdc0: unit 0 (wd0): > > > > > > wd0: 6194MB (12685680 sectors), 13424 cyls, 15 heads, 63 S/T 512 B/S > > > > > > wdc1 at 0x170-0x177 irq 15 on isa > > > > > > wdc1: unit 0 (atapi): , removable, accel, > > > dma, iordis > > > > > > ... > > > > > > # fsck / > > > > > > *** /dev/rwd0s3a > > > > > > *** Last Mounted on / > > > > > > *** Root file system > > > > > > *** Phase 1 - Check Blocks and Sizes > > > > > > wd0: interrupt timeout (status 58 error 0) > > > > > > wd0: wdtimeout DMA status 4 > > > > > > wd0: interrupt timeout (status 50 error 1) > > > > > > wd0: wdtimeout DMA status 4 > > > > > > wd0: interrupt timeout (status 50 error 1) > > > > > > wd0: wdtimeout DMA status 4 > > > > > > wd0: interrupt timeout (status 50 error 1) > > > > > > wd0: wdtimeout DMA status 4 > > > > > > wd0: interrupt timeout (status 50 error 1) > > > > > > wd0: wdtimeout DMA status 4 > > > > > > wd0: Last time I say: interrupt timeout. Probably a portable PC. (stat > > > us 50 error 1) > > > > > > > > > > Well, yes in fact it is a portable PC :-) It just seems to hang > > > > > at this point, even though there seems to be disk activity (like > > > > > it's continuously retrying). > > > > > > > > > > This machine has run fine under this kernel since I installed > > > > > 3.4-REL a month ago or so. This same problem happens with the > > > > > 3.4-REL GENERIC kernel. > > > > > > > > > > Before this, it was running fine with a 3.0++ kernel and never > > > > > had this problem after many power cycles. > > > > > > > > > > Is there any hope in getting this machine to work again?? > > > > > Howabout disabling DMA? Is there some way to do that? > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for any pointers.. > > > > > -Archie > > > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________________ > > > __ > > > > > Archie Cobbs * Whistle Communications, Inc. * http://www.whistle.c > > > om > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > > > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > > > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > Bob "Don't make the bear smarter when it's asleep" - Ioana Timariu To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message