From owner-freebsd-current Mon Oct 28 11:56: 6 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4EA4337B401; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 11:56:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from hun.org (hun.org [216.190.27.122]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 342B643E75; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 11:56:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from attila@hun.org) Received: by hun.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id B0F2C573FB; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 19:55:51 +0000 (GMT) Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 19:55:51 +0000 (GMT) Message-Id: <20021028195551.fKMW8394@hun.org> From: Daniel Flickinger X-Mailer: AttilaMail with XEmacs & Postfix on FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT X-Ballistic: N 37.218497 W 113.614979 X-Address: 31 N 700 E, St George UT 84770-3028 X-Squawk: (435) 680-0750 X-No-Archive: yes X-Tags: Sanity is the Playground for the Unimaginative In-Reply-To: <20021028054715.A11208@FreeBSD.org> References: <3DBD3D03.9030507@137.org> <20021025192535.EF82F2A88D@canning.wemm.org> To: Juli Mallett Cc: Patrick Hartling , Peter Wemm , current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: HEADS UP: you need to install a new kernel before an installworld. Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; name="text" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Sent: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 05:47:15 -0800 by Juli Mallett + What sorts of problems are you running into? Also, how old was your + kernel, and how old is your userland? With no more info, I'd prolly + advise you to update everything to the latest, and if problems persist, + rebuild your GNOME stuff, and if problems persist, throw exception... + + But the latter bits of that are a bit drastic, depending on the hw! As drastic as that sounds, you save time! Even when you have been tracking CURRENT since FreeBSD 1. I had 300+ entries in the package table, most of which were running until the compiler/loader changes on 15 Aug. Nothing but trouble trying to build new ports. Configure blew out, etc. After the configure problem, a 'find' for a stray 'cpp' turned up a 1998 gcc copy labeled 'unknown-freebsd-2.2' in /usr/local/lib/gcc...! That did it... The really critical stuff like apache with PHP/SSL/etc, Postfix, etc. I maintain outside the loop, and were giving me no problems --I just rebuilt them. But, on the rest, I had spent close to 10 days with generally poor results. Finally, X ran... I had been updating daily from cvs, so I set DESTDIR for a 2G partition and ran installworld for it. Then one by one I wasted /bin, /sbin, /usr/bin, /usr/include, /usr/lib, /usr/libexec, /usr/sbin --even X, and tar'd from the fresh installworld --permissions and all. Other than my critical programs (I wiped 1.5 gigs off /usr/local) there was trash there that was older than the 1998 gcc! --even the main directories were a mess. I flushed /var/db/pkg and started over, pulling packages first for X and its requirements, then Xemacs, Mozilla, and Gimp --all from snapshot, installing pre-requisites manually before each of the packages. I only have 60 packages installed --don't know what the other 240 entries were, but obviously they were just burning space. The bottom line is that I spent ONE day doing a TOTAL fresh system --but I wasted 10 days before getting smart --and, I don't have any historical baggage. Frankly, even permitting upgrade from 4+ is suicidal. Yes... YMMV attila out! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message