From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Feb 6 09:39:23 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 86434EE82DD for ; Tue, 6 Feb 2018 09:39:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd.ed.lists@sumeritec.com) Received: from out1-5.antispamcloud.com (out1-5.antispamcloud.com [185.201.16.5]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 121CE7FBE3 for ; Tue, 6 Feb 2018 09:39:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd.ed.lists@sumeritec.com) Received: from [153.92.8.106] (helo=srv31.niagahoster.com) by mx12.antispamcloud.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1eiyFS-0005yP-4z; Tue, 06 Feb 2018 09:05:09 +0100 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=sumeritec.com; s=default; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type: MIME-Version:References:In-Reply-To:Message-ID:Subject:Cc:To:From:Date:Sender :Reply-To:Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From: Resent-Sender:Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help: List-Unsubscribe:List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=ajGlXun2vw7HfZ4GNYxUuUacwZp53yrryQR/MFDav8Y=; b=TEEfERHYODkDRXG0YHlcCtO5vA U4AE6mxhAheXYi3FQTOVkyETs6fqtZHzhDqU60Wiv9OYZepet6slwiG7PXAGsXsFNS8leG06Jw0r1 6xDGqKZw4wz8CSjnZWSK7SiuZR8r/j9AvN2w/bowtK6ywqzjtdsojAkJtQfRXOisdsn9JSkGR3hVp MiTMnVZuV4mu8DYSaNn6LFttpsopA+f/riv0FUP70R1ptmEi4lvGWDC69q0AStdz+jr4W2ClajnG7 ciYjo9rgO4UC3m7XOlOhwLaPwV9vCd/BTj6fR/MQnkH1NeHmUlS2xflcdiiE7R7VkfTBc/BW8G00U NqyXJiwA==; Received: from [114.125.118.195] (port=34152 helo=X220.sumeritec.com) by srv31.niagahoster.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89_1) (envelope-from ) id 1eiyEe-0000mi-6A; Tue, 06 Feb 2018 15:04:12 +0700 Date: Tue, 6 Feb 2018 16:04:09 +0800 From: Erich Dollansky To: Robert Huff Cc: Frank Leonhardt , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Swap on SSD Message-ID: <20180206160409.633ab15a.freebsd.ed.lists@sumeritec.com> In-Reply-To: <23160.43027.295357.808217@jerusalem.litteratus.org> References: <26877DEB-034F-422B-918F-2A0D1C381537@kreme.com> <23160.43027.295357.808217@jerusalem.litteratus.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-AuthUser: freebsd.ed.lists@sumeritec.com X-Originating-IP: 153.92.8.106 X-AntiSpamCloud-Domain: out.niagahoster.com X-AntiSpamCloud-Username: niaga Authentication-Results: antispamcloud.com; auth=pass (login) smtp.auth=niaga@out.niagahoster.com X-AntiSpamCloud-Outgoing-Class: ham X-AntiSpamCloud-Outgoing-Evidence: Combined (0.02) X-Recommended-Action: accept X-Filter-ID: EX5BVjFpneJeBchSMxfU5kegaYytsM47Vvf2eyHrNInj1g3/PwYZaTCzSym8uE9HQZeRo3EKdA4a RUtjVnzXq4bnq6t/dW4+e/GIzBuKGYQ3DeOIrayOCUVQDjY6WYh7NvBmnsl29tXahCoEmn5z/4Yc tgrvnCT+72Dvka56asTjdG2DeQNHi8imno++Q7JBWmuNA8WTybi1JN85FSnfKSMZ6S3yLR82tVTs c5PeRF0Mv/QFVEuEAQ6cHXPQYnNjbyg5b/5enMN0gr7TFQpFuXnuTx4hclXbDLLP7h3yhbm35Ma3 az/bh+xFmgErgr3pwiPNi3vdOuhwyviFoLAZScJMBdJa2tsOpzGNARP3D244G7njdNZShdG6npo+ iA9ohQKbbvW2sKLWr0gR92ooUokB1/R4ar1CYVgFKOoJD148kS5veKyBL4UnppPERLxYCysS8iVp KpCkKVcU3+6ajh7Mo03ta/XwHR9jeVsyd4SkrsuMWZxrTCBVt/lF9IovvKhXliG78w9pKdlOmjar uCGAKIYCs0EeYPq7nqYddPN8XCcdyhgnb+NPMyCMdlhP6J1fhOzjF0b4LXcjJZ5logSVKvIcam9z xwWhO2TZcY2edeb3lrS9G2Mff9TAU6WtrfpjsugJNZLi94n1hpVt5uIxwg7VYE6d+dbdwcF2ceCF PZ0TA6MuL66k/u6d5hTjERWeKKG4PAQYNyavp7c49EKotECmwJAExvqNN9F6y7O0ZHAKT6A8zU8p FXUPpL7kaShXJha6yEVgsruy6S6GaerOOpRTPOqz3zUBQYZp7ROTp7U4BfGmqxX20X65TYDhuXct Qw1CgygVz7Xr3UnHr5zRPA8gEmeeAc/z3AcElOuDJgBv5EgwwcS4n+bqZg37y6MnW7jstYvUn5mI MQW6t5nckpWaLvahyBjmQxBKOzvj3d3m5irrnFFc13FanxME9id7DAQQKwb+94dXATXuWIjB5goI ukurFFGgzTgR9YU= X-Report-Abuse-To: spam@quarantine1.antispamcloud.com X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.25 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 06 Feb 2018 09:39:23 -0000 Hi, On Mon, 5 Feb 2018 13:53:07 -0500 Robert Huff wrote: > Frank Leonhardt writes: > > > FreeBSD doesn't actually swap these days; uses demand paging. > > Possible evidence to the contrary: > On a system running: > > FreeBSD 12.0-CURRENT #0 r326723: Sat Dec 9 12:30:04 EST 2017 amd64 > > top shows: > > last pid: 57956; load averages: 2.02, 2.01, 1.95 up > 57+19:09:04 13:49:29 132 processes: 3 running, 129 sleeping > CPU: 38.7% user, 0.4% nice, 7.9% system, 0.0% interrupt, 53.0% idle > Mem: 2264M Active, 2303M Inact, 1478M Laundry, 1525M Wired, 761M Buf, > 115M Free Swap: 17G Total, 996M Used, 16G Free, 5% Inuse > > So ... is "Swap" an incorrect label, or is actual swapping > going on? > (And is there a utility which will list the swap area by > owning process?) > I have the same when putting to much load on my old machine. It is just a matter of RAM. Either you spend the money on RAM or on SSD. Erich