From owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 10 04:47:47 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 65BE916A4CE for ; Thu, 10 Feb 2005 04:47:47 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtpauth04.mail.atl.earthlink.net (smtpauth04.mail.atl.earthlink.net [209.86.89.64]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 120C743D31 for ; Thu, 10 Feb 2005 04:47:47 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from algould@datawok.com) Received: from [206.255.31.21] (helo=[192.168.63.10]) by smtpauth04.mail.atl.earthlink.net with asmtp (TLSv1:RC4-MD5:128) (Exim 4.34) id 1Cz6F0-0008Ih-6O; Wed, 09 Feb 2005 23:47:46 -0500 From: "Andrew L. Gould" To: Erich Dollansky Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2005 22:48:15 -0600 User-Agent: KMail/1.6.2 References: <200502091349.00708.algould@datawok.com> <200502092210.39490.algould@datawok.com> <420AE14F.6050104@pacific.net.sg> In-Reply-To: <420AE14F.6050104@pacific.net.sg> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200502092248.15008.algould@datawok.com> X-ELNK-Trace: ee791d459e3d6817d780f4a490ca69563f9fea00a6dd62bcadb62528dc14af3c39549e0c976941c7350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 206.255.31.21 cc: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Logo Contest X-BeenThere: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: FreeBSD Evangelism List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2005 04:47:47 -0000 On Wednesday 09 February 2005 10:21 pm, Erich Dollansky wrote: > Hi, > > Andrew L. Gould wrote: > > On Wednesday 09 February 2005 08:56 pm, Erich Dollansky wrote: > >>Hi, > >> > >>this all sounds like a very stupid idea to me. > >> > >>This also sounds like the effort in the EU banning the swastika not > >>seeing that some two billion people using it as a religious symbol. > > > > No. Your statement would be correct if Beastie were losing his > > status as the mascot. Beastie is retaining his status as the > > mascot. > > Beastie is losing its status as a logo. > > >>I never ever heard that a company has chosen a product because of > >> its logo. > >> > >>Do you believe that Windows is this successful because of its logo? > >> > >>Erich > > > > FreeBSD has a powerful, serious, professional side that Beastie > > does not > > Do above attributes apply to the logo of the most successful software > package known as Windows? > > http://www.microsoft.com/windows/default.mspx I care about the OS's popularity only for the driver support it may someday bring. I care more about spending more time talking about FreeBSD's strengths than explaining that the devil is a daemon, which has both a Greek definition and is also an acronym. > > > All religious and Political Correctness issues aside, do you have > > any objections to a more complete and accurate image for FreeBSD? > > FreeBSD already has this image. Only in tight circles where it is well known. Where I live and work, it is mostly unknown. Those who have heard of it think that it's either a Linux distribution or one of those hacker tools. You know about hackers, don't you? They're young, bright criminals that create computer viruses and steal your personal identity. People fear the unknown. Add to the unknown, add a group of people that have been negatively stereotyped by Hollywood and the news media, and a logo that may represent something less than wholesome. I live in East Texas and work for a hospital in West Texas. In both ends of this great state, which I love dearly, I am hesitant to wear my Beastie t-shirts. Windows is king here, and anything not supported by a major vendor must be a tool used by malcontents. I administer the only *nix computer at my workplace. Since I am NOT a member of the IS department, I hope you can imagine the trouble I went through to get permission to use FreeBSD. It was only after turnover of key IS positions that I was able to establish good working relationships with IS personnel. Things are good now; but were not always so. Andrew Gould > > Erich