From owner-freebsd-security Wed Aug 15 20:40: 6 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-security@freebsd.org Received: from nova.fnal.gov (nova.fnal.gov [131.225.121.207]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 800FA37B409 for ; Wed, 15 Aug 2001 20:40:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from zingelman@fnal.gov) Received: from localhost (tez@localhost) by nova.fnal.gov (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA28935; Wed, 15 Aug 2001 22:39:48 -0500 (CDT) X-Authentication-Warning: nova.fnal.gov: tez owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2001 22:39:48 -0500 (CDT) From: Tim Zingelman X-Sender: To: Mixtim Cc: Subject: Re: cvs commit: src/etc inetd.conf In-Reply-To: <20010815213818.A759@mixtim.homeip.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-security@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > Anyone else notice that bikeshed has lost its original meaning and is > now synonymous with apathy? Funny the coincidence... I'd deleted the last 7 messages in this thread without reading them. I read these last two only because there were only two in my inbox since the last time I'd checked my email. > Every discussion now boils down to four groups: > > 1. The group in favor of a given proposal. > 2. The group against a given proposal. > 3. The apathetic group that keeps talking about bikesheds. > 4. The group that can't stand discussion and keeps trying to get > everyone to shutup. I challenge you to go back through all the messages in this thread and classify even 25% in any of the above groups. I don't hear anyone agreeing or disagreeing with a proposal. Almost all fall into category five. Classic bikeshed input from people who have not contributed patches... Did anyone notice that the PATCHES attached to a recent earlier thread on almost exactly this topic have already been committed and will be in 4.4? > Why is it that group 3 is slowly becoming more annoying? Because you have not been reading this mailing list long enough. :) I'd argue that apathy (ie. I don't care) is the correct response to this class of discussion. - Tim To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-security" in the body of the message