From owner-freebsd-security@freebsd.org Mon Jul 31 15:56:31 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-security@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 37C7FDB287E for ; Mon, 31 Jul 2017 15:56:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from spankthespam@gmail.com) Received: from mail-qt0-x22e.google.com (mail-qt0-x22e.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400d:c0d::22e]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BFB3681881 for ; Mon, 31 Jul 2017 15:56:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from spankthespam@gmail.com) Received: by mail-qt0-x22e.google.com with SMTP id a18so92330269qta.0 for ; Mon, 31 Jul 2017 08:56:30 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=4MLRumQEPX9b3wsIZoc9J1vCK3izOydVII54Ihn2ae0=; b=L4GIIUyb2RydCcU2JjfMHW/Pj9g2F5IjGhhp+QVEUL6gJNrW9mIn1sLrG7kkjxe3K/ 8f9LQdRa7jFWUmqODTiBTbUnejET1F9Rz8D9jn7z3Bygow5Ry0aT/iIhtuFgvQntclSu 4Uvd9rIIXgA2seAEXTph6/nRtpFgqOUzbjuOEPsg1yOV8anMWmje0HuBof0W3qly60mp JxxuBJ8cQ1hKWgzAUFWvoYSSBjJWtyllqQmuh6f+0+bwRBdjOF/KbW/5KTKWAyUaYNW0 FXm7Ux2joJaJAXcqA2+N9+ykoXpUI52unPPJx6alV/UB7n3I6awOr4FmbMcwKkdWkhHW O6NA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=4MLRumQEPX9b3wsIZoc9J1vCK3izOydVII54Ihn2ae0=; b=r5d0Q6m2NXvGnKG5AwWBwZBgZQXx/Z/NXoCRJ603cb17CD9Kg/Avk6/lcK3tk9LcLE SyuKFzEiZvEZ9VkSFRe6fETpZa3+RvTlWYkQ4dsSqaJwpDJR6wkphMkZz+cDwEIvB/Lb z97aaAXFyU697QurR4REDqCPC4DiONZd6B5v24F/Sn6xqdEH4McJJuS3kgUBbwszTRcR 7vDe6t/SMDlE4oPg4ZxzwtV3ScWFbBnDkzZsdfo0ijLS1xMgbiZ3MUf02CDuACqyDgog rBN9e3jc1QVafSdwFbfOjhRYsf+J/z9GI0beE9NuSQPwfZXhk8PeLluh4KsiNgZb/vhi 7V0A== X-Gm-Message-State: AIVw111N05l2KP7/Cx0tmB1CUm5sYp4srYVMnAK5aMrNgK2Rc051Ty9c IXkwkyXVL1fGWhbP+4fyMd28JYuM9A== X-Received: by 10.237.48.65 with SMTP id 59mr23371182qte.10.1501516589743; Mon, 31 Jul 2017 08:56:29 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.200.48.19 with HTTP; Mon, 31 Jul 2017 08:56:29 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <861sowy5ay.fsf@desk.des.no> References: <26de0aed-8151-6105-188f-ad0c6c6cf8b8@erdgeist.org> <86y3r4ubvx.fsf@desk.des.no> <84c3e9d0-3d44-b310-a946-96eb0c54e79d@sorbs.net> <861sowy5ay.fsf@desk.des.no> From: Big Lebowski Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2017 16:56:29 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: DefCon lecture BSD Kern Vulns To: =?UTF-8?Q?Dag=2DErling_Sm=C3=B8rgrav?= Cc: Michelle Sullivan , freebsd-security Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.23 X-BeenThere: freebsd-security@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Security issues \[members-only posting\]" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2017 15:56:31 -0000 > > There are decades of history here of which you are clearly unaware. > Your may have the best of intentions, but nothing good will come of > raising this topic here and now. Just drop it. > > DES > Des, please, stop doing that. You're greatest example of cant-be-done about almost anything anyone asks for on this list. Michelle, please, don't stop. Keep talking, keep asking, and maybe one day a new breed of people who don't care about cant-be-done or 'decades of history' will get things done. BL.