From owner-svn-ports-head@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 13 07:31:12 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: svn-ports-head@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3842ECB2; Wed, 13 Aug 2014 07:31:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: from shepard.synsport.net (mail.synsport.com [208.69.230.148]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0BF922CE0; Wed, 13 Aug 2014 07:31:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.0.22] (unknown [130.255.19.191]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by shepard.synsport.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C74AD438BD; Wed, 13 Aug 2014 02:30:49 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <53EB1418.7010306@marino.st> Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2014 09:30:32 +0200 From: John Marino Reply-To: marino@freebsd.org User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.5.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: =?UTF-8?B?IkN6YW5paywgUMOpdGVyIg==?= , Cy Schubert Subject: Re: svn commit: r364739 - in head: . sysutils sysutils/syslog-ng-devel sysutils/syslog-ng-devel/files References: <53EA6EBB.2010802@marino.st> <201408122006.s7CK5o3U039963@slippy.cwsent.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: svn-ports-head@freebsd.org, svn-ports-all@freebsd.org, marino@freebsd.org, ports-committers@freebsd.org, Cy Schubert , Peter Czanik X-BeenThere: svn-ports-head@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: SVN commit messages for the ports tree for head List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2014 07:31:12 -0000 On 8/13/2014 09:05, Czanik, Péter wrote: > On Tue, Aug 12, 2014 at 10:05 PM, Cy Schubert wrote: >> Some people actually use this stuff, bleeding edge -CURRENT with bleeding >> edge ports. If people want to try out and test new software on the latest >> -CURRENT, by the time the rest of us use the release-ready versions most of >> the bugs have been ironed out. At the expense of a little repo bloat our >> upline and users receive a better product in the end. > > That's it. Our users are asking for the alpha releases to be easily > available, as they need some of the new features. So I prepare Linux > packages and FreeBSD ports, as building from source without package > management is not acceptable for most users. And it's also good for > us, syslog-ng upstream, as most of the development is done on Linux, > and having alpha releases in FreeBSD helps to keep syslog-ng > multi-platform. Any Linux only code surfaces easily when I start > packaging for FreeBSD :) > Once the -devel port is mature enough (after a few maintenance > releases) it is moved to sysutils/syslog-ng and the old syslog-ng port > is moved to a versioned port, like sysutils/syslog-ng34. The 3.3 > version is reaching end of life soon, so that port will be removed > later this year, or early next year. > Bye, > Thank Peter, You obviously make a strong case. I'm basically asking that each "-devel" port maintainer (which I agree should also maintain the stable port) be able to make a strong case for their port and that the bar be set fairly high. With this rationale, you'd clear that bar. Of the 140 other ports, I think many maintainers would have more trouble justifying the existence of the port. Thanks for weighing in, John