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From: Alexey Dokuchaev <danfe@FreeBSD.org>
To: Ed Maste <emaste@freebsd.org>
Cc: Baptiste Daroussin <bapt@freebsd.org>, ports-committers@freebsd.org,
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Subject: Re: svn commit: r415078 - in head: . Mk
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On Mon, May 16, 2016 at 10:21:07AM -0400, Ed Maste wrote:
> On 13 May 2016 at 16:19, Alexey Dokuchaev <danfe@freebsd.org> wrote:
> >
> > Anyway, why this information can't be fetched from the metadata?
> 
> I think this one wasn't addressed in bapt's reply. Since the ports
> tree can also be obtained as a tar file independent of any VCS,
> requiring a ports repo in svn/git/hg to obtain the metadata is not
> viable.

Thank you Ed, I was a bit disappointed that it was ignored. :-(

I'm still not convinced though, sorry.  Ports tree can be obtained by
a number of means, but this new ugly TIMESTAMP thingy is added for a
very specific usecase, and there should be no problem to require that
for that particular usecase, exported ports tree must have its files'
mtimes correctly set.  (If svn/git/hg are not setting right mtimes on
export, they should be fixed.)  It looks more like quick'n'dirty hack
rather than thoroughly thought-out solution.

./danfe