From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Aug 16 7:30:51 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from guru.mired.org (okc-27-141-144.mmcable.com [24.27.141.144]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 5672E37B406 for ; Thu, 16 Aug 2001 07:30:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mwm@mired.org) Received: (qmail 35276 invoked by uid 100); 16 Aug 2001 14:30:46 -0000 From: Mike Meyer MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15227.55574.841640.235559@guru.mired.org> Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2001 09:30:46 -0500 To: Dmitry Karasik Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: too many groups In-Reply-To: <43723870@toto.iv> X-Mailer: VM 6.90 under 21.1 (patch 14) "Cuyahoga Valley" XEmacs Lucid X-face: "5Mnwy%?j>IIV\)A=):rjWL~NB2aH[}Yq8Z=u~vJ`"(,&SiLvbbz2W`;h9L,Yg`+vb1>RG% *h+%X^n0EZd>TM8_IB;a8F?(Fb"lw'IgCoyM.[Lg#r\ Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Dmitry Karasik types: > Mike> Why should we bloat the kernel ucred structure from 80 bytes to over > Mike> 4000 bytes to the a single users problem - that they brought on > Mike> themselves? Especially when someone will eventually ask "why don't > Mike> you just set it to 4096?", which would only make it slightly less > Mike> than 4 times larger rather than the 50 times larger you're asking > Mike> for. If you want an OS design governed by bad decisions to make life > Mike> easier on the user, MS will gladly sell it to you. > So what? Is 4096 so large that the poor kernel can't handle it? Depends. How much free space is there on your system already? Of course, if it were one 4K chunk, it wouldn't be much of a problem. It's not - it's one 4K chunk for every ucred structure. That's what makes it a bad decision. > Anyway. My bitter point is, that your answer along with many others > does not make it constructive but tries to offend ( MS, bad decisions, > etc..). It might be a bad decision and might be not - and since you're not > a spokesman for the freebsd project, your "why" might be as well irrelevant as mine. You can only get questions from the people you ask. You asked those of us who hang out in -questions, not the official spokesman (and please don't bug Jordan with this - he's not the right person to ask either), so you get answers from us. I also told you how I solved this problem when *I* ran into it. You decided to overlook that, though. http://www.mired.org/home/mwm/ Independent WWW/Perforce/FreeBSD/Unix consultant, email for more information. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message