Date: Thu, 4 Dec 1997 09:02:32 -0500 (EST) From: John Fieber <jfieber@indiana.edu> To: Satoshi Asami <asami@cs.berkeley.edu> Cc: max@wide.ad.jp, ports@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: the location of the Handbook and the FAQ Message-ID: <Pine.BSF.3.96.971203223109.26584D-100000@fallout.campusview.indiana.edu> In-Reply-To: <199712040325.TAA10024@silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU>
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On Wed, 3 Dec 1997, Satoshi Asami wrote:
> * Got that and understand, but my proposal is that the handbook/faq
> * should be considered separate entities from FreeBSD--third party
> * ventures if you will. The fact that they live in the same cvs
> * repository as the FreeBSD core, or a cvs repository at all, is
> * just coincidence and convenience. Just like any other port, the
> * handbook/faq ports should fetch a tarball of the source, unpack
> * it in the "standard" work subdirectory and install in
> * ${PREFIX}/share/doc. Giving these special treatment because they
> * live in the FreeBSD cvs repository is more trouble than it is
> * worth, in my humble opinin.
>
> I think you are contradicting yourself here. You just lined out the
> "worth" of having stuff from the local tree. :)
Whoops, you lost me there! Explain? What is the "local" tree we
are talking about?
> Also, we have quite different views on what these "ports" are. My
> take is that these are just for building packages, and the current
> Japanese handbook port works just fine for that.
The difference, as far as how the port is constructed, is small.
The japanese handbook port has a dependency that you have to step
outside the standard ports mechanism to satisfy--getting the
handbook source. What is needed is not a standard place to have
the source installed on your system, but a standard place you can
ftp it from. Alternately, it could be cvsupped directly into the
work directory by the port makefile.
> People who like to build stuff from sources can cvsup doc-all and do a
> "make all install" in there. It's really not any harder than building
> the port.
Although it isn't any harder to DO once you know WHAT to do, you
do have to figure out what to do (cvsupping the doc-all
collection) and I get a fair amount of email from puzzled users
about that point. Eliminating the external depenedency would
remove that apparently not-completely-obvious step.
-john
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