From owner-freebsd-hackers Mon Jun 29 21:24:53 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA25097 for freebsd-hackers-outgoing; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 21:24:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from homer.supersex.com (homer.supersex.com [209.5.1.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA25081 for ; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 21:24:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from leo@homer.supersex.com) Received: (from leo@localhost) by homer.supersex.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) id AAA11964; Tue, 30 Jun 1998 00:25:47 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <19980630002547.30271@supersex.com> Date: Tue, 30 Jun 1998 00:25:47 -0400 From: Leo Papandreou To: hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Too much spam from uu.net References: <199806300045.UAA04359@whizzo.transsys.com> <5776.899169085@time.cdrom.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.89i In-Reply-To: <5776.899169085@time.cdrom.com>; from Jordan K. Hubbard on Mon, Jun 29, 1998 at 06:11:25PM -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, Jun 29, 1998 at 06:11:25PM -0700, Jordan K. Hubbard wrote: > > It's very unlikely that the spam originates from anyone with a mailbox on > > a UU.NET system. You're probably seeing it from addresses which are in the > > foo.DA.UU.NET or bar.MS.UU.NET which are PPP pool addresses used by resellers > > of the dial network infrastructure. These would include MSN, AOL, Earthlink, > > the Well, WebTV and many others. > 99% of which are vulnerable to a teardrop attack. Instant SPAM cancel. > Right, and I think I made this point in my original email. Since > they're clearly reselling to a lot of folks with no scruples WRT UCE > at all, the easiest thing to do is simply block *.uu.net since I I personally think you are cutting off too many people by blocking uu.net. Uu.net is a *lot* of dialups I'm doubt uu.net has any con- trol over spammers who open an account with MSN, connect and funnel their spam to earthlink or some place in hungary. Spamming software has gotten pretty good at what it does. > certainly don't want the job of having to track down every foo.uu.net > subdomain resold to a spammer-friendly ISP. As Jon has also already > noted, the folks directly affected by this seem quite small and I've > gotten *far* less spam in my mailbox today as a result, so as far as > I'm concerned the exercise is an unqualified success. > > > If you tried to report this to abuse@uu.net and that didn't yield > > satisfactory results, please let me know. While "god ... knows > > which .. is repsonsible > > Heh. I reported it so many times and so frequently that Paul Vixie > finally asked me to cc him on all the reports, someting which I did > for a couple of months until we both got tired of the exercise. > > - Jordan > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message