From owner-freebsd-security Mon Jul 1 12:20:53 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-security@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 13D0A37B4C4 for ; Mon, 1 Jul 2002 12:20:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ns3.ideathcare.com (mail.allneo.com [216.185.96.68]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id BE93D43E13 for ; Mon, 1 Jul 2002 12:20:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jps@funeralexchange.com) Received: (qmail 5699 invoked by uid 85); 1 Jul 2002 19:25:22 -0000 Received: from jps@funeralexchange.com by ns3.ideathcare.com with qmail-scanner-1.03 (uvscan: v4.1.40/v4121. . Clean. Processed in 0.172156 secs); 01 Jul 2002 19:25:22 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO pimpin) (216.138.114.131) by mail.allneo.com with SMTP; 1 Jul 2002 19:25:22 -0000 Reply-To: From: "Jeremy Suo-Anttila" To: "Jesse" , "Garrett Wollman" Cc: Subject: RE: security risk: ktrace(2) in FreeBSD prior to -current. Date: Mon, 1 Jul 2002 14:27:00 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4910.0300 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: Sender: owner-freebsd-security@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org There is no such thing as low volume with people like Brett Glass on here. I would love to have this list setup to ONLY send out notifications. I think that 90% of the mail i get from here is flame wars between Brett and someone who's toes he has stepped on again. Also Brett no hard feelings but i belive alot of your questions / concerns should be placed on -questions or -chat there really is no need for these never ending threads that we have all been seeing lately. There is so much flaming going on i swear i am going to miss a valid security posting since there is so much crap coming into my mailbox. I really do not care how YOU feel FreeBSD is setup or why a certain packages / ports have not been made to fit your NEEDS this is FreeBSD if you dont like the way its done stop bitching, moaning, crying and having a general hissy fit about it all and code the fixes yourself. NO ONE says you have to use FreeBSD so if you really do not like the way the updates and patch system works go use something else. Also i really do not care that you have a zillion machines running various types of FreeBSD and other embedded OS's. That is not our problem and if you are concerned about how you are going to protect and update them maybe you should have taken that into consideration when you purchased the equipment and you may have steered away from a embedded *blackbox* type devices. Did you ever stop to think that if you actually STFU for a couple of days maybe the developers could fix the problems and not have to deal with responding to your tired ass questions. Also please respond to me in CC since i do not wish to waste anyones bandwidth. Thanks Jps -----Original Message----- From: owner-freebsd-security@FreeBSD.ORG [mailto:owner-freebsd-security@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Jesse Sent: Monday, July 01, 2002 2:02 PM To: Garrett Wollman Cc: security@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: RE: security risk: ktrace(2) in FreeBSD prior to -current. Please, everyone, I use this list to track _important_ security issues dealing with both production and personal machines. Do you know what LOW VOLUME means? -----Original Message----- From: owner-freebsd-security@FreeBSD.ORG [mailto:owner-freebsd-security@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Garrett Wollman Sent: Monday, July 01, 2002 11:51 AM To: Dag-Erling Smorgrav Cc: security@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: security risk: ktrace(2) in FreeBSD prior to -current. < said: > I don't care about the port. Personally, I'd rather it didn't exist, > and I think admins who install it need to have their head checked. I don't care about the base-install ssh. Personally, I'd rather it didn't exist, and I think admins who install it need to have their heads checked. So there! -GAWollman To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-security" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-security" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-security" in the body of the message