Date: Mon, 16 Oct 1995 13:25:31 +0300 (MSK) From: =?KOI8-R?Q?=E1=CE=C4=D2=C5=CA_=FE=C5=D2=CE=CF=D7?= (aka Andrey A. Chernov, Black Mage) <ache@astral.msk.su> To: Poul-Henning Kamp <phk@critter.tfs.com> Cc: bde@zeta.org.au, hackers@freefall.freebsd.org, j@uriah.heep.sax.de, kaleb@x.org Subject: Re: A couple problems in FreeBSD 2.1.0-950922-SNAP Message-ID: <nZRCZWmu_J@ache.dialup.demos.ru> In-Reply-To: <RkNIYWmyUH@ache.dialup.demos.ru>; from =?KOI8-R?Q?=E1=CE=C4=D2=C5=CA_=FE=C5=D2=CE=CF=D7?= at Mon, 16 Oct 1995 12:23:35 %2B0300 (MSK) References: <214.813831228@critter.tfs.com> <RkNIYWmyUH@ache.dialup.demos.ru>
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=?KOI8-R?Q?=E1=CE=C4=D2=C5=CA_=FE=C5=D2=CE=CF=D7?= writes:
>In message <214.813831228@critter.tfs.com> Poul-Henning Kamp writes:
>>> >Yes, bloat is added even when ENABLE_STARTUP_LOCALE isn't set. Bloat is
>>> >added even when no ctype function is called (this is normal for most
>>> >programs in /bin and /sbin - grep shows "ctype.h" in only 25 out of 80
>>> >programs in /usr/src/[s]bin.
>>>
>>> It isn't accurate results. Many libc functions calls ctype
>>> indirecly, i.e. strtol, atoi, etc. You additionly need
>>> to grep ctype through libc and then grep function you got
>>> through bin/sbin. I suspect that 100% of programs use ctype
>>> for accurate results.
>>Andrey, you have to realize that Bruce reported precise numbers, whereas
>>you just "suspect". Please prove you point, and provide hard numbers.
>Well, here more accurate results.
>I build/install special crt0.o version which not calls reduced_setlocale()
>bloat.
>Then I rebuild bin/sbin. Then I use following csh script to find ones
>which not use ctype at all:
>foreach i (*)
>nm $i/obj/$i | grep -l -q Locale || echo $i >> /tmp/result
>end
>running it on bin:
>100% use ctype!!!
>running it on sbin:
>100% use ctype!!!
>So my suspection was right.
It means that bloat reason is reduced_setlocale body itself.
Purposes of reduced_setlocale is making _right_ ctype.
Having right ctype is essential. Even Kaleb suggest to have
right one (but right for 8859-1 only and broken for others
and POSIX).
My hack makes it right for any LANG value including 8859-1
and not violates POSIX.
--
Andrey A. Chernov : And I rest so composedly, /Now, in my bed,
ache@astral.msk.su : That any beholder /Might fancy me dead -
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