From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 6 20:54:36 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 81E76106566C for ; Mon, 6 Aug 2012 20:54:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) Received: from oproxy11-pub.bluehost.com (unknown [IPv6:2605:dc00:100:2::a3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 436058FC12 for ; Mon, 6 Aug 2012 20:54:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 13532 invoked by uid 0); 5 Aug 2012 16:28:02 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO box543.bluehost.com) (74.220.219.143) by oproxy11.bluehost.com with SMTP; 5 Aug 2012 16:28:02 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=apotheon.com; s=default; h=In-Reply-To:Content-Type:MIME-Version:References:Message-ID:Subject:To:From:Date; bh=l8B//5N24u1Mac5cuMbpD0iWu/VCz/2+Xz3e97xhXlM=; b=hqMUMplUFAeuDs+qvUcv/t3PSaI5qfkvSTEEUECMtYMIV82SE4p0rr4yQBg9op0FH6VO3gOUYUFsxpw7IqOx2RHQQb7OTZj+5YyPgui0LjYgpAni/tlDzVXR4pwAhmaY; Received: from [24.8.180.234] (port=63650 helo=localhost) by box543.bluehost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES128-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1Sy3gQ-0006hJ-4G for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 05 Aug 2012 10:28:02 -0600 Date: Sun, 5 Aug 2012 10:28:01 -0600 From: Chad Perrin To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20120805162801.GA5028@hemlock.hydra> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20120805045800.29444.qmail@joyce.lan> <20510.27576.562781.36878@jerusalem.litteratus.org> <20120805093320.7b7f0fc4@scorpio> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20120805093320.7b7f0fc4@scorpio> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-Identified-User: {2737:box543.bluehost.com:apotheon:apotheon.com} {sentby:smtp auth 24.8.180.234 authed with perrin@apotheon.com} Subject: Re: Patent hit - MS goes after Linux - FreeBSD ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 06 Aug 2012 20:54:36 -0000 On Sun, Aug 05, 2012 at 09:33:20AM -0400, Jerry wrote: > On Sun, 5 Aug 2012 08:48:56 -0400 > Robert Huff articulated: > > > > Patents are - or should be - the means, not the end. The end > > is encourage people to create new stuff; the means of encouragement > > is to give them exclusive rights for a limited time. As long as the > > idea gets out there, we should be indifferent as to whether they > > make money. > > I agree up to the point about financial incentive. For myself, I like > making money. I don't apologize for that. Most engineers, software / > hardware designers also enjoy receiving a monetary reward for their > hard work. Simple giving away our hard work, sweat and time to some > socialist just because they feel they have the right to the hard work of > others is repulsive. I'm okay with that statement. > > If a monetary reward were removed from the equation, we would probably > still be using an abacus in the dark. Cockamamie nonsense -- or, if you prefer, [citation needed]. > > While we certainly should be indifferent to the financial incentive and > monetary reward someone receives; in all too many cases that is just > not so. The socialists still feel they are entitled to something for > nothing. . . . which need not have *anything* at all to do with a discussion of whether a system of patents is a good or bad idea. -- Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ]