From owner-svn-ports-all@freebsd.org Wed Sep 14 13:55:17 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: svn-ports-all@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4CEB5BD9CB4; Wed, 14 Sep 2016 13:55:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mat@FreeBSD.org) Received: from prod2.absolight.net (mx3.absolight.net [IPv6:2a01:678:2:100::25]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "plouf.absolight.net", Issuer "CAcert Class 3 Root" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0832E1689; Wed, 14 Sep 2016 13:55:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mat@FreeBSD.org) Received: from prod2.absolight.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by prod2.absolight.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 53B9FBDEBA; Wed, 14 Sep 2016 15:55:14 +0200 (CEST) Received: from ogg.in.absolight.net (ogg.in.absolight.net [79.143.241.239]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by prod2.absolight.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 0E078BDEB9; Wed, 14 Sep 2016 15:55:14 +0200 (CEST) Subject: Re: svn commit: r422114 - head/misc/fortune_strfile To: John Marino , marino@freebsd.org, ports-committers@freebsd.org, svn-ports-all@freebsd.org, svn-ports-head@freebsd.org References: <201609140545.u8E5jeBH058686@repo.freebsd.org> <40537f68-1d2b-194c-55d5-b133d743ed3e@marino.st> <9063296a-9793-4cb3-1857-f5baf51cfbee@FreeBSD.org> <51b77b4e-8061-e183-ec68-d434d50bd0b2@marino.st> <26e04c98-fb1c-b7fa-0551-d1d7048a267e@FreeBSD.org> <7c0af911-8103-bfaf-65cd-da6f490c0137@marino.st> From: Mathieu Arnold Organization: Absolight / The FreeBSD Foundation Message-ID: Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2016 15:55:12 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.11; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.2.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <7c0af911-8103-bfaf-65cd-da6f490c0137@marino.st> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="Stxs4A749lT1exbpdfC2BblC6uliiPNsP" X-BeenThere: svn-ports-all@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: SVN commit messages for the ports tree List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2016 13:55:17 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --Stxs4A749lT1exbpdfC2BblC6uliiPNsP Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="6cBApeQjF1oFWrqTStmfeLmsqWLDTlRdT"; protected-headers="v1" From: Mathieu Arnold To: John Marino , marino@freebsd.org, ports-committers@freebsd.org, svn-ports-all@freebsd.org, svn-ports-head@freebsd.org Message-ID: Subject: Re: svn commit: r422114 - head/misc/fortune_strfile References: <201609140545.u8E5jeBH058686@repo.freebsd.org> <40537f68-1d2b-194c-55d5-b133d743ed3e@marino.st> <9063296a-9793-4cb3-1857-f5baf51cfbee@FreeBSD.org> <51b77b4e-8061-e183-ec68-d434d50bd0b2@marino.st> <26e04c98-fb1c-b7fa-0551-d1d7048a267e@FreeBSD.org> <7c0af911-8103-bfaf-65cd-da6f490c0137@marino.st> In-Reply-To: <7c0af911-8103-bfaf-65cd-da6f490c0137@marino.st> --6cBApeQjF1oFWrqTStmfeLmsqWLDTlRdT Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Le 14/09/2016 =C3=A0 15:52, John Marino a =C3=A9crit : > On 9/14/2016 08:41, Mathieu Arnold wrote: >> Le 14/09/2016 =C3=A0 14:27, John Marino a =C3=A9crit : >>> >>> But this is NOT an error. You see it as a violation of the "spirit" >>> of the policy, but it's not a violation of the policy itself. If you= >>> think there should be a minimum ownership period then work on >>> adjusting the policy (through consensus hopefully). I met the >>> requirements and it was all very intentionally on my part, no error a= t >>> all, and certainly not without precedent. >> >> And you are ranting with legalese talk again. Our policies are for >> normal people, not lawyers, and thus, require you to extrapolate a bit= >> and use common sense. >> This is why, for example, the porter's handbook is 350 pages long, not= >> 25000, with 42 annexes. >> >> Now, to the subject at hand, new ports must have a maintainer, in this= >> case, you did not follow the policy, it is a new port, and it does not= >> have maintainer. >> > > I followed the "law". I maintained the port long enough to ensure > that it fulfilled its purpose. > > Lawyers and judges exist for a reason, to interpret badly written laws > and policies. Again, if there is a MINIMUM time to maintain a port, > please add it to the policy. Here, we are maintaining an operating system, it is not a tribunal. And no, there will not be a hard definition of how long a port is considered new, like I said, common sense, less than six months but more than a week, or something. --=20 Mathieu Arnold --6cBApeQjF1oFWrqTStmfeLmsqWLDTlRdT-- --Stxs4A749lT1exbpdfC2BblC6uliiPNsP Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 iQJ8BAEBCgBmBQJX2VbBXxSAAAAAAC4AKGlzc3Vlci1mcHJAbm90YXRpb25zLm9w ZW5wZ3AuZmlmdGhob3JzZW1hbi5uZXQzQUI2OTc4OUQyRUQxMjEwNjQ0MEJBNUIz QTQ1MTZGMzUxODNDRTQ4AAoJEDpFFvNRg85Iu/MP/A1CbrlrY1rUU/OWmhJ+liY1 6enIwpTcaS5FOwmBH84TuEbPAJMwwDSPQa+oAfQhUMUYRQxPv28diqBlFag6Pi0l ap5TT+CfR9py941B4GPOX/mV4mkdMP/sdMbrR/Bw2K5+OFtQdDQGvbSmb0ryZGXz Wa7rK6kIIyKHbwsZy9+WCj9I7HZUi/aT1HLg+rj5PbgVgRpObxB7/73mBw5rkV4i gFm0pocdynH6R4KfJO2trvCRzlwz99Jp+uKbAxRuy2zDET33aBX/6THwmkWizPym RVSZpNasJ6bj/5AffmeBac6aUUTpcvh1ysce7O7JuWKeWfHAEY9dS7zveW/2xnSX mL8qdRFrR6UlyUnTtH2xDOb9yJQS1JTrQX6f3jwP9hjmth7hf2gSMtx81kCvIX+9 zuwdafAnzfOfdbhLwJSCeRRgtrpqLmeuOG8iT9qcl5jnR7ersrzU/Kin5shAcHXJ KK5KiShbRumGCSGO8Vg7Ma9YCMcRwwdoOp4FBGsBadnqno9pu6Fkt1xQ8FpcB02m Mfz+QfHGewo/8tcJ9rotYx8CHvsPHkXJwJZpIaF8djoMt0lNAXBChh5sCFLxccAI Br0As8zcI0fedI1l5ROv4ZlILctgGegkRQrNDyR+R7HcW1GOCb/W61Bhi8t2sox9 +zg3cAA9cYRR6FCA501j =tzeH -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Stxs4A749lT1exbpdfC2BblC6uliiPNsP--