From owner-freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Tue Feb 25 13:29:01 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E787225BAB2 for ; Tue, 25 Feb 2020 13:29:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mario.olofo@gmail.com) Received: from mail-qt1-x842.google.com (mail-qt1-x842.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::842]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "GTS CA 1O1" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 48RfsS2rDMz3KGj for ; Tue, 25 Feb 2020 13:29:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mario.olofo@gmail.com) Received: by mail-qt1-x842.google.com with SMTP id p34so9010680qtb.6 for ; Tue, 25 Feb 2020 05:29:00 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=81MigyFM2TDGckJh1MLGlkJOJHj3ciH1/ZYjAinaR2E=; b=csGkRHfkee7+BVPo7rih8Zcr+iNfm3kr/FhWrxzGuqRugH1S0twwZQiriCy0pdWxIi kcos/8EYmAqylqDBnAZZTE+FqAj7VHxKpbXDixjzhaxhVOs9QqL/noeo/3w0BP0TbBiS GjI0kF3Ph1Yd1UJhyBVIjVoPDm1oDAoB3AdHyPGNS49tGkpL/Q8xH+qMZ/GW/5hVxU3U u5T4/fO887pHmQFMBkxpuKY3gT9X71k04q0OOgMgj/Uk7s7Du9vo37hND1pH1wconPcJ t0D5CMP/oP0/fQLg4NoM7KHQvDVcSIf47QJX4Vk+53V+qzMJxDCGxm911nOR7TxNwp6G uWqQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=81MigyFM2TDGckJh1MLGlkJOJHj3ciH1/ZYjAinaR2E=; b=n/fAiHlAK/Gs0Ar0+wF1jkC0jO/3f5zo6uvzFTm6DRgW0Ez0oWGV/ViHZMIcqHoSWv zKTShXUYYBDXSuzTWhwGrYDSl3XE6UI3BjbbYg9INU3Gr7Q8bUK1dw/4MlvJty00CLhL fb5S+HUjNzsqT6nG5GCShSefD12VX3X+hNjtyc3IRUJJqVHfFZHEbiNtCM0K2SHmX6tl vwHaOolVIBFbgcFMakkvt7kCjV/oFdAk03pkLMiw8Xw7ooD5o0PARO5THsZENr9s3n71 hUx5I7oR03dpH+WYMDeEfkBKT+ZrojeJLWMaw6a8jl78jw3Q/WtububURdckQdZ7szY0 0o0A== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAWUpYzEJ7H7MT5WT5Uh4uuLdZzcX62LIbOxp1sbwlle+Ld3gk9c plpe79qftIy+fpYdPxV4j4TuTmYO4oqU5Ayl83CEKZ8EGmQ= X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqxPHYk//CLShP3H2wJGDjPJ3ob01Xj0e1BOEVSc/c7C0gyFGA89ueNy4Cxc7UZPX3KPunyAWo5q03YNDfXObxQ= X-Received: by 2002:ac8:5419:: with SMTP id b25mr55140781qtq.390.1582637338761; Tue, 25 Feb 2020 05:28:58 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <202002250115.01P1F9KX090465@mail.karels.net> <188F34DA-192C-4D44-96B5-18A7DAE8EC67@digsys.bg> <6028c786-8610-01d9-818e-6f69a2fe9645@ingresso.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <6028c786-8610-01d9-818e-6f69a2fe9645@ingresso.co.uk> From: Mario Olofo Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2020 10:28:47 -0300 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Running FreeBSD on M.2 SSD To: Pete French Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 48RfsS2rDMz3KGj X-Spamd-Bar: - Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=gmail.com header.s=20161025 header.b=csGkRHfk; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=gmail.com; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of marioolofo@gmail.com designates 2607:f8b0:4864:20::842 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=marioolofo@gmail.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-2.00 / 15.00]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip6:2607:f8b0:4000::/36:c]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; URI_COUNT_ODD(1.00)[3]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[gmail.com:+]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[gmail.com,none]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; IP_SCORE(0.00)[ip: (1.81), ipnet: 2607:f8b0::/32(-1.88), asn: 15169(-1.67), country: US(-0.05)]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+,1:+,2:~]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2607:f8b0::/32, country:US]; TAGGED_FROM(0.00)[]; DWL_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[gmail.com.dwl.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[gmail.com:s=20161025]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[multipart/alternative,text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-stable@freebsd.org]; IP_SCORE_FREEMAIL(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[2.4.8.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.2.0.0.4.6.8.4.0.b.8.f.7.0.6.2.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.29 X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2020 13:29:02 -0000 Good morning all, @Pete French, you have trim activated on your SSDs right? I heard that if its not activated, the SSD disc can stop working very quickly. @Daniel Kalchev, I used UFS2 with SU+J as suggested on the forums for me, and in this case the filesystem didn't "corrupted", it justs kernel panic from time to time so I gave up. I think that the problem was related to the size of the journal, that become full when I put so many files at once on the system, or was deadlocks in the version of the OS that I was using. @Alexander Leidinger I have the original HDD 1TB Hybrid that came with the notebook will try to reinstall FreeBSD on it to see if it works correctly. Besides my notebook been a 2019 model Dell G3 with no customizations other than the m.2 SSD, I never trust that the system is 100%, so I'll try all possibilities. 1- The BIOS received an update last month but I'll look if there's something newer. 2- Reinstall the FreeBSD on the Hybrid HDD, but if the problem is the FreeBSD driver, it'll work correctly on that HD. 3- Will try with other RAM. This I really don't think that is the problem because is a brand new notebook, but... who knows =3D). Thank you, Mario Em ter., 25 de fev. de 2020 =C3=A0s 08:08, Pete French escreveu: > > > On 25/Feb/2020 10:52, Daniel Kalchev wrote: > > It might well be, that FreeBSD is more agressive with your > motherboard/chipset or does not implement known quirk of that =E2=80=94 w= hich might > trigger some edge cases for the SSD. Ultimately, if you can move that SSD > to another motherboard and test it, it would confirm where the issue is. > > I have often wondered if ZFS is more aggressive with discs, because > until very recently any solid state drive I have used ZFS on broke very > quicky. For USB sticks that is not unexpected, but decent SSD's also > seem to last less than a year with ZFS on top. I don't let it bother me > anymore simply always install them in pairs and replace when I start > seeing errors. > > By the way, I am not talking about checksum errors here from ZFS, I am > talking about the drive starting to error into dmesg. Checksum errors I > could belive that I was gettign with UFS in the past and just didnt know > it. But this behaviour is that the drive stops working. Some USB sticks > lasted less than a week. Some earlier SSD's only a month or two. More > recent SSD's are lasting longer, and I dont use USB sticks much anymore. > > I am sure I have mentioned this before and people say that it works for > them, so maybe its my magic touch which causes it. :-) > > -pete. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-stable-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >