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Date:      Tue, 25 Feb 2020 10:28:47 -0300
From:      Mario Olofo <mario.olofo@gmail.com>
To:        Pete French <petefrench@ingresso.co.uk>
Cc:        freebsd-stable@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Running FreeBSD on M.2 SSD
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Good morning all,

@Pete French, you have trim activated on your SSDs right? I heard that if
its not activated, the SSD disc can stop working very quickly.
@Daniel Kalchev, I used UFS2 with SU+J as suggested on the forums for me,
and in this case the filesystem didn't "corrupted", it justs kernel panic
from time to time so I gave up.
I think that the problem was related to the size of the journal, that
become full when I put so many files at once on the system, or was
deadlocks in the version of the OS that I was using.
@Alexander Leidinger I have the original HDD 1TB Hybrid that came with the
notebook will try to reinstall FreeBSD on it to see if it works correctly.

Besides my notebook been a 2019 model Dell G3 with no customizations other
than the m.2 SSD, I never trust that the system is 100%, so I'll try all
possibilities.
1- The BIOS received an update last month but I'll look if there's
something newer.
2- Reinstall the FreeBSD on the Hybrid HDD, but if the problem is the
FreeBSD driver, it'll work correctly on that HD.
3- Will try with other RAM. This I really don't think that is the problem
because is a brand new notebook, but... who knows =3D).

Thank you,

Mario



Em ter., 25 de fev. de 2020 =C3=A0s 08:08, Pete French <petefrench@ingresso=
.co.uk>
escreveu:

>
>
> On 25/Feb/2020 10:52, Daniel Kalchev wrote:
> > It might well be, that FreeBSD is more agressive with your
> motherboard/chipset or does not implement known quirk of that =E2=80=94 w=
hich might
> trigger some edge cases for the SSD. Ultimately, if you can move that SSD
> to another motherboard and test it, it would confirm where the issue is.
>
> I have often wondered if ZFS is more aggressive with discs, because
> until very recently any solid state drive I have used ZFS on broke very
> quicky. For USB sticks that is not unexpected, but decent SSD's also
> seem to last less than a year with ZFS on top. I don't let it bother me
> anymore  simply always install them in pairs and replace when I start
> seeing errors.
>
> By the way, I am not talking about checksum errors here from ZFS, I am
> talking about the drive starting to error into dmesg. Checksum errors I
> could belive that I was gettign with UFS in the past and just didnt know
> it. But this behaviour is that the drive stops working. Some USB sticks
> lasted less than a week. Some earlier SSD's only a month or two. More
> recent SSD's are lasting longer, and I dont use USB sticks much anymore.
>
> I am sure I have mentioned this before and people say that it works for
> them, so maybe its my magic touch which causes it. :-)
>
> -pete.
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