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Date:      Tue, 15 Dec 1998 13:14:32 -0900 (AKST)
From:      Random Liegh <random@random.static.greatland.net>
To:        Gerry Marcelo <germar@pair.com>
Cc:        freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: How much RAM for newbie install?
Message-ID:  <Pine.BSF.4.05.9812151245430.1644-100000@random.static.greatland.net>
In-Reply-To: <009601be2851$fcc6c6a0$4677aacf@market5.kvue.com>

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On Tue, 15 Dec 1998, Gerry Marcelo wrote:

> Greetings:
> I am awaiting the arrival of my Walnut Creek CD-ROM package
> of FreeBSD 2.2.8.  I am a flat out newbie to UNIX after years of
> Microsoft products.  I wish to learn how to eventually set up a
> FreeBSD/Apache server with MS Frontpage 98 extentions for use as a small
> Intranet server.
> 
Hello, and congrats. :)
You are in a good and a bad posistion there...especially w/ *that*
ambitious of a project. 
the bad news:
>From what you're saying there, that's not exactly the best back ground to
approach FreeBSD from. You are in for a *world* of reading. I suggest you
get very familiar w/ the browser "lynx" (it's text based, run from your
console--very great for reading because it doesn't load the images that
tend to clutter most web pages). Were I you I would grab a *Large*
quantity of the "beverage of your choice" and then once you have your
system installed flip to a text console (Not X--though you can do this
from X) and run the following command to view the online docs (I do so w/
such frequency I've made a shell script of it):
lynx  /usr/share/doc/handbook/handbook.html

As far as your ambitions go ... *whew*; I wish ya luck on that. I have no
idea of where the rubber meets the road on setting up servers, so I've no
idea of what is or isn't possible. Please keep us (or at least *me*)
posted. :-)

The good news: 
In my experience (I've been into personal computers since 7/94; have
"played" w/ various versions of Linux; never really settling w/ any
distribution for very long, this being my 2nd install of FreeBSD.
*mainly* my "os of choice" having *also* been M$ windows) you've picked
the *nix that requires the least amount of "setup tinkering". I installed
FreeBSD this past weekend, and at the same time my best friend installed a
new distribution (to her) of Linux called SuSE. I was up and running ---
with X-windows and ppp configured--inside of 6 hours...that's *including*
the time it took to d/l everything from ftp.freebsd.org. She just
*yesterday* got X-windows to run, after much consternation on both of
our parts (and she has been using Linux exclusively since 96, and is by no
means a "newbie" to Linux setup). So...to wit; you have chosen (imho) the
best,easiest *nix to set up and actually get *running*.

> I wish to install FreeBSD on the following "lab" computer to
learn. 
> It will be the only OS on the machine.
> 
> i486sx25 overclocked to 33 (chipset escapes me right now)
> 8megs of ram
> 2.0 Maxtor IDE hard drive
> Trident 8900D video card with 1mg ram
> No name multi-io card
> No name 28.8 internal modem
> OAS brand SVGA monitor
> 

the other good news. You have more then sufficent equipment to be running
effeciently. here's what I am using:

486 DX/2 66 (my first install was to a 486 DX 33)
8 megs of ram (allocate *Plenty* of swap space for X -- it seems to
require *alot* more memory than on a Linux machine...14 megs, just to have
a few Xterms up, according to top.)
1.7 gig seagate drive (w/ 350megs dedicated to Linux; and 1.35 dedicated
to FreeBSD)
No-name standard vga card
No-name svga monitor
generic 28.8 external modem

Everything; outside of some DIY configuration runs like a charm (except
netscape...but *that* won't run 'cos it won't play w/ the VGA16 server...
shouldn't be a prob for you since you're using SVGA)

> I believe the above equipment will allow an install (5meg minimum,
> correct?), but how much ram should I really have to allow me to learn the
> following:
> 1.  How to use the OS, it's filesystem and basic operation
> 2.  Experiment with Xwindows
> 3.  Install and become familiar with Apache/FP98 Extentions
> 

No idea about number 3. But I find myself pretty happy w/ my set up. Might
be a touch slow, considering your processor. As long as you have the HD
space for a sufficent swap partition (I, myself, would recommend 30-50
megs) RAM shouldn't be an issue; instead you should look into getting a
new motherboard if possible (I consider what I have to be the *bare*
minimum for *good* day to day performance). 

> This machine will never be used as a production machine...just for me to
> mess around with a learn what I can...I guess you might place it as a
> workstation class machine.
> 
> So how much ram might I need to to get all this done?
> Any suggestions on other types of hardware better suited for this task?
>
Hm, you have sufficent equipment right now; but then again; more ram and a
faster processor is *always* nice; regardless of your OS. ;) 
> Thank you for your assistance.
> 
> Gerry

Hope this has helped; sorry again for the lenth of the letter. :/

Sincerly

-Random (my real-life, if not *legal* name. ;) )



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