From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 5 01:52:59 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E63FB106566B for ; Tue, 5 Aug 2008 01:52:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fullermd@over-yonder.net) Received: from thyme.infocus-llc.com (server.infocus-llc.com [206.156.254.44]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B4C828FC18 for ; Tue, 5 Aug 2008 01:52:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fullermd@over-yonder.net) Received: from draco.over-yonder.net (c-75-64-197-185.hsd1.ms.comcast.net [75.64.197.185]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by thyme.infocus-llc.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 4980C37B51E; Mon, 4 Aug 2008 20:37:05 -0500 (CDT) Received: by draco.over-yonder.net (Postfix, from userid 100) id 22FB461C6D; Mon, 4 Aug 2008 20:37:04 -0500 (CDT) Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2008 20:37:04 -0500 From: "Matthew D. Fuller" To: Tod McQuillin Message-ID: <20080805013704.GA90232@over-yonder.net> References: <200808041330.m74DUsg9075683@lurza.secnetix.de> <48970C5E.6000406@andric.com> <20080804230919.H1629@plexi.pun-pun.prv> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20080804230919.H1629@plexi.pun-pun.prv> X-Editor: vi X-OS: FreeBSD User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18-fullermd.4 (2008-05-17) X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.93.3, clamav-milter version 0.93.3 on thyme.infocus-llc.com X-Virus-Status: Clean Cc: randy@psg.com, Dimitry Andric , freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: termcap under single luser X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Aug 2008 01:53:00 -0000 On Mon, Aug 04, 2008 at 11:11:30PM +0900 I heard the voice of Tod McQuillin, and lo! it spake thus: > > A somewhat unconventional approach to this is to install > /usr/share/misc/termcap into the root filesystem, normally > underneath and hidden by the /usr mount, but visible again in the > case where /usr is not mounted. Actually, I take a different approach, in that I no longer separate / and /usr on new system setups. I couldn't come up with any good reason not to. There's no space-wise reason anymore, not for several decades. Access patterns are pretty much the same. The most persuasive reason is to be more sure that / is good, even if /usr gets screwed up. But how can it get screwed up? Random hard drive failure? Just as likely to hit anywhere. Crash-caused corruption? Not really a concern unless you're writing. And I don't write /usr more often than I write /; in fact, FAR less often. About the only time /usr gets touched is during installworld; / gets tweaked all the time what with /etc. /usr/local? /var? /tmp? Sure, they're all off somewhere else. But I'm long out of good, or even not-so-good, reasons to keep / and /usr segregated. -- Matthew Fuller (MF4839) | fullermd@over-yonder.net Systems/Network Administrator | http://www.over-yonder.net/~fullermd/ On the Internet, nobody can hear you scream.