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Date:      Tue, 23 Mar 1999 09:45:20 -0800 (PST)
From:      Mike Meyer <mwm@phone.net>
To:        stable@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: Build of 3.1-STABLE failing?
Message-ID:  <Pine.BSF.4.05.9903230939470.414-100000@guru.phone.net>
In-Reply-To: <xzpbthkm7ic.fsf@flood.ping.uio.no>

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Are you saying there's some tool that does the job right while the
system is active? If so, please let us know!

Otherwise, my statement is correct. That I didn't mention what should
be common knowledge doesn't mean I wasn't aware of it. In fact, having
to have the system down to do the post-installworld dump is part of
the problem. If you don't back the system up, the
buildworld/installworld path isn't to bad. But I rely on my systems
for my livelyhood, and am not willing to put my data at risk that way.

	<mike

On 23 Mar 1999, Dag-Erling Smorgrav wrote:

> Date: 23 Mar 1999 18:38:03 +0100
> From: Dag-Erling Smorgrav <des@flood.ping.uio.no>
> To: Mike Meyer <mwm@phone.net>
> Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG
> Subject: Re: Build of 3.1-STABLE failing?
> 
> Mike Meyer <mwm@phone.net> writes:
> > If you read the handbook on backups, you'll note that the recommended
> > backup tool is dump - because it's the only thing that does the job
> > right.
> 
> Wrong. Dump relies on a number of assumptions which are only correct
> for quiescent (i.e. unmounted) file systems. If you want to use dump
> reliably, mirror your file system across two disks. Unmount one of
> them before dumping. Sync it up with the live one once the dump is
> complete, and remount. This procedure guarantees that the file system
> is in a stable, consistent state throughout the dump.
> 
> DES
> -- 
> Dag-Erling Smorgrav - des@flood.ping.uio.no
> 



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