From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Apr 25 14:48:26 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mail.kibserv.org (ns1.kibserv.org [216.27.132.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 81B9B37B417 for <questions@FreeBSD.ORG>; Thu, 25 Apr 2002 14:48:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ns1 (seti.kibserv.org [216.27.132.21]) by mail.kibserv.org (8.11.3/8.11.3) with SMTP id g3PLkik07029; Thu, 25 Apr 2002 21:46:48 GMT (envelope-from freebsdlist@kibserv.org) Message-ID: <003701c1eca2$b616f720$15841bd8@kibserv.org> Reply-To: "Jason Cribbins" <freebsdlist@kibserv.org> From: "Jason Cribbins" <freebsdlist@kibserv.org> To: "James Long" <list@ns.museum.rain.com> Cc: <questions@FreeBSD.ORG> References: <005201c1ec7b$03ad34e0$15841bd8@kibserv.org> <20020425124811.A3066@ns.museum.rain.com> Subject: Re: make world lasts longer than the energizer bunny Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2002 17:46:47 -0400 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: <freebsd-questions.FreeBSD.ORG> List-Archive: <http://docs.freebsd.org/mail/> (Web Archive) List-Help: <mailto:majordomo@FreeBSD.ORG?subject=help> (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: <mailto:majordomo@FreeBSD.ORG?subject=subscribe%20freebsd-questions> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:majordomo@FreeBSD.ORG?subject=unsubscribe%20freebsd-questions> X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG ----- Original Message ----- From: "James Long" <list@ns.museum.rain.com> To: "Jason Cribbins" <freebsdlist@kibserv.org> Cc: <questions@FreeBSD.ORG> Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2002 3:48 PM Subject: Re: make world lasts longer than the energizer bunny : > This is a keyboardless box (something fried on motherboard long ago) that I : > had to initiate the make world through telnet on a windoze box. If I had : > know it was going to take this much time I would have telneted from another : > freebsd box. My windoze machines typically need to be rebooted every few : > days to clean up memory leaks. : > I might be in trouble here. : : Tip 1: run the make in the background. For instance I have a : script called /root/mbw which does a little prep, and the : "make buildworld" step. I invoke it thusly: : : /root/mbw >mbw.out 2>&1 & : That is a good idea. Thanks : That makes /root/mbw run, sending its standard output and standard error : to mbw.out, and runs it in the background, so that I don't have to keep : the ssh (or telnet) session active for the duration of the make. : : To check the progress, inspect mbw.out, perhaps with : : tail -f mbw.out : : : Tip 2: I haven't done a lot of build worlds, but by the procedure I use, : at some point, you're going to have to log in directly on the console of : the keyboardless box. If you have it set up to use a serial console to : bypass the non-functional keyboard interface which I am inferring, that : will work, but the make installword is best done in single-user mode, : when telnet/ssh are not at your disposal. I would think a 486 with a : fried keyboard interface would be worth about the same as a first-class : postage stamp. Perhaps you could upgrade to a P90 or better? They're : cheap also, probably will mount in the same case, and might even use : the same 72-pin RAM, if your 486 uses 72-pin memory. : I have one slower than this one that serves my dhcp and dns queries. This operation is a low traffic on anyhow. The only box that I want to be sure is fast is the web and mysql servers since they are the most heavily used. Mostly I operate these on a donation budget....people donate hardware (working or otherwise) and I try to salvage as much as I can to make some working boxes. : Listen to Kris on time estimates. My PII-400 (192M) or dual 450 (704M) : machines build in about 60-90 minutes. : Accroding to the stats from Kris it might be faster to install fresh from FTP again :) Which is what I might do for this one box its original intended purpose has not be implemented yet. By thte time I got to working on gettting this box into production the software I chose to use is not better suited for 4.5 than 4.4....I am only doing make world because I thought it would faster and easier than a fresh install. : To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message