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Date:      Thu, 25 Apr 2002 17:46:47 -0400
From:      "Jason Cribbins" <freebsdlist@kibserv.org>
To:        "James Long" <list@ns.museum.rain.com>
Cc:        <questions@FreeBSD.ORG>
Subject:   Re: make world lasts longer than the energizer bunny
Message-ID:  <003701c1eca2$b616f720$15841bd8@kibserv.org>
References:  <005201c1ec7b$03ad34e0$15841bd8@kibserv.org> <20020425124811.A3066@ns.museum.rain.com>

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----- Original Message -----
From: "James Long" <list@ns.museum.rain.com>
To: "Jason Cribbins" <freebsdlist@kibserv.org>
Cc: <questions@FreeBSD.ORG>
Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2002 3:48 PM
Subject: Re: make world lasts longer than the energizer bunny


: > This is a keyboardless box (something fried on motherboard long ago)
that I
: > had to initiate the make world through telnet on a windoze box.  If I
had
: > know it was going to take this much time I would have telneted from
another
: > freebsd box.  My windoze machines typically need to be rebooted every
few
: > days to clean up memory leaks.
: > I might be in trouble here.
:
: Tip 1: run the make in the background.  For instance I have a
: script called /root/mbw which does a little prep, and the
: "make buildworld" step.  I invoke it thusly:
:
: /root/mbw >mbw.out 2>&1 &
:
That is a good idea.
Thanks

: That makes /root/mbw run, sending its standard output and standard error
: to mbw.out, and runs it in the background, so that I don't have to keep
: the ssh (or telnet) session active for the duration of the make.
:
: To check the progress, inspect mbw.out, perhaps with
:
: tail -f mbw.out
:
:
: Tip 2: I haven't done a lot of build worlds, but by the procedure I use,
: at some point, you're going to have to log in directly on the console of
: the keyboardless box.  If you have it set up to use a serial console to
: bypass the non-functional keyboard interface which I am inferring, that
: will work, but the make installword is best done in single-user mode,
: when telnet/ssh are not at your disposal.  I would think a 486 with a
: fried keyboard interface would be worth about the same as a first-class
: postage stamp.  Perhaps you could upgrade to a P90 or better?  They're
: cheap also, probably will mount in the same case, and might even use
: the same 72-pin RAM, if your 486 uses 72-pin memory.
:
I have one slower than this one that serves my dhcp and dns queries.  This
operation is a low traffic on anyhow.  The only box that I want to be sure
is fast is the web and mysql servers since they are the most heavily used.

Mostly I operate these on a donation budget....people donate hardware
(working or otherwise) and I try to salvage as much as I can to make some
working boxes.

: Listen to Kris on time estimates.  My PII-400 (192M) or dual 450 (704M)
: machines build in about 60-90 minutes.
:
Accroding to the stats from Kris it might be faster to install fresh from
FTP again  :)
Which is what I might do for this one box its original intended purpose has
not be implemented yet.  By thte time I got to working on gettting this box
into production the software I chose to use is not better suited for 4.5
than 4.4....I am only doing make world because I thought it would faster and
easier than a fresh install.
:



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