From owner-freebsd-gnome@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 31 08:38:53 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-gnome@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A05837B40D for ; Mon, 31 Mar 2003 08:38:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from creme-brulee.marcuscom.com (rdu57-17-158.nc.rr.com [66.57.17.158]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 335FB43FDF for ; Mon, 31 Mar 2003 08:38:52 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from marcus@marcuscom.com) Received: from [10.2.1.4] (vpn-client-4.marcuscom.com [10.2.1.4]) h2VGc2Tc029986; Mon, 31 Mar 2003 11:38:02 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from marcus@marcuscom.com) From: Joe Marcus Clarke To: Joe Kelsey In-Reply-To: <3E886E24.4050805@mail.flyingcroc.net> References: <200303311600.h2VG0Rcx058286@freefall.freebsd.org> <3E886E24.4050805@mail.flyingcroc.net> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-+AY76GQeySs1W/E+dA49" Organization: MarcusCom, Inc. Message-Id: <1049128722.348.22.camel@gyros> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.2.3 Date: 31 Mar 2003 11:38:42 -0500 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-39.4 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_01,EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO,PGP_SIGNATURE_2, QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,QUOTE_TWICE_1,REFERENCES, REPLY_WITH_QUOTES autolearn=ham version=2.50 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.50 (1.173-2003-02-20-exp) cc: FreeBSD GNOME Users Subject: Re: ports/50482: gnome-session will not start on 4.8-RC, X 4.3, X-BeenThere: freebsd-gnome@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: GNOME for FreeBSD -- porting and maintaining List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2003 16:38:55 -0000 --=-+AY76GQeySs1W/E+dA49 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, 2003-03-31 at 11:34, Joe Kelsey wrote: > Joe Marcus Clarke wrote: > > On Mon, 2003-03-31 at 11:00, Joe Kelsey wrote: > >=20 > >>The following reply was made to PR ports/50482; it has been noted by GN= ATS. > >> > >>From: Joe Kelsey > >>To: freebsd-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org, joe@zircon.seattle.wa.us > >>Cc: =20 > >>Subject: Re: ports/50482: gnome-session will not start on 4.8-RC, X 4.3= , > >>Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2003 07:52:56 -0800 > >> > >> I can send truss output. > >>=20 > >> There is absolutely no problem with fontconfig. I re-install it and=20 > >> pango and everything else I can think of. I run fc-cache -f -v multip= le=20 > >> times. I manually verify the font-cache-1 files. > >>=20 > >> The truss output clearly shows *something* opening and reading every=20 > >> single one of the font-cache files, so your blithe remarks about *it=20 > >> works for me" are completely useless and do nothing to solve the very=20 > >> real problems that I experience day in and day out. > > And your blithe "it doesn't work" bug reports are helping? >=20 > I am trying to be helpful. >=20 > I spent the entire day yesterday trying to solve the problem. I=20 > installed your so-called pango fix, only to have my minimal gnome setup=20 > finally completely grind to a halt. >=20 > I have been living without gdm2 for the past two weeks, ever since=20 > installing X 4.3. I have become intimately familiar with tracking down=20 > and deleteing font cache files on the system and running fc-cache so=20 > many times... >=20 > Now that, in addition to gdm2 not working, gnome-session refuses to=20 > start, my home system is completely useless. I have to read mail at=20 > home by examining individual files in the Maildir. It is very=20 > frustrating for me. >=20 > I do my best to not submit bug reporst unless I hav espent considerable=20 > time trying to fix it on my own. I cannot find any information anywhere=20 > on how to debug either fontconfig or gnome-session or gdm2. I am left=20 > with running truss... >=20 > I am very upset about gnome-session failing to work on my home system.=20 > I do not want to risk the same thing happening to my work system. It is=20 > bad enough that gdm2 refuses to run on either system. If I risk=20 > upgrading my work system, then I may be stuck with the same problem on=20 > two machines. > >>=20 > >> You have done nothing to help solve the multiple fontconfig problems=20 > >> appearing in the field. fc-cache is not the solution. > >=20 > >=20 > > I'm open to suggestions. I'm one guy, working for nothing, with a real > > job, doing my best to help hundreds of users. I can't reproduce the > > problem locally, so what do you expect me to do? Wave a magic wand and > > conjure up a solution? I need more information! > >=20 > > Do this, set FC_DEBUG to 1023 in your environment, then run startx.=20 > > Send me the output. You might also try removing ~/.fonts-cache-1, too. >=20 > I will see what happens when I get home this afternoon. Unfortunately,=20 > I cannot perform this experiment remotely. Actually, if gnome-session fails, so should all GTK+-2 apps. Can you xhost back any app? Since you're getting the pango "Can't find fonts" error, either the fonts-cache-1 files are empty or you can't read them.=20 Does GNOME work for root, BTW? Joe >=20 > /Joe >=20 --=20 PGP Key : http://www.marcuscom.com/pgp.asc --=-+AY76GQeySs1W/E+dA49 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQA+iG8Sb2iPiv4Uz4cRAmW+AJ9+iymTXpJR3NTgFbNJQ9Nn7EHswgCgiCjf 7XhvhLHuTxgBbyz7rkokAF0= =irPq -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-+AY76GQeySs1W/E+dA49--