From owner-freebsd-chat Tue Apr 2 15:14: 8 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from falcon.prod.itd.earthlink.net (falcon.mail.pas.earthlink.net [207.217.120.74]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C71737B405 for ; Tue, 2 Apr 2002 15:13:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from pool0045.cvx22-bradley.dialup.earthlink.net ([209.179.198.45] helo=mindspring.com) by falcon.prod.itd.earthlink.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 16sXTH-0004Ma-00; Tue, 02 Apr 2002 15:13:48 -0800 Message-ID: <3CAA3B14.ED8EA096@mindspring.com> Date: Tue, 02 Apr 2002 15:13:24 -0800 From: Terry Lambert X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-CCK-MCD {Sony} (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Rahul Siddharthan Cc: chat@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Anti-Unix Site Runs Unix References: <20020402113404.A52321@lpt.ens.fr> <3CA9854E.A4D86CC4@mindspring.com> <20020402123254.H49279@lpt.ens.fr> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Rahul Siddharthan wrote: > > Terry Lambert said on Apr 2, 2002 at 02:17:50: > > > > Without the Netscape connection, it fails to support Java. > > > > > > Where did you get that idea? > > > > The Mozilla website. > > URL, please? > > I had a look at the release notes for 0.9.9 and what I found was, > > Mozilla has been tested with all 1.3.0_* versions of the JRE, and JRE > 1.3.1, and beta versions of JDK 1.4. J2SE releases previous to > 1.3.0_01 will not work with Mozilla . Last time I checked, these did not run on FreeBSD. The URL for the FAQ entry for Java (again!) is: http://www.gerbilbox.com/newzilla/mozilla/usingmoz07.php > (http://www.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla0.9.9/#java) > > It doesn't seem quite the same as what you're saying... > To install the default plugin, all you have to do is go to a page > which requires java, and it will prompt you to download the plugin, > and then it will download and install the plugin for you. That's it. > If you prefer the IBM plugin you have to do it yourself but it's > pretty easy. It may have escaped your notice, but this is a FreeBSD list... 8-) 8-)... how do you make it work on FreeBSD? Running Linux binaries is not an answer. Also note that the only three semi-supported ("semi", as *none* are _supported_) Java are Linux, MacOS, and Win32. > It does say Java isn't working yet on Mac OS X, however. ... > > > > But it's binary. And it's supported. And it's not explicitly > > > > labelled as "for testing purposes only!" on the download lead-in > > > > page. > > > > > > What exactly does "supported" mean? When it crashes, do they come and > > > hold your hand? > > > > Yes, for a fee. > > That was a rhetorical question. The real question is, do they fix it > for you so that it doesn't crash? If they do that, why does it > continue to crash for everyone else, and if they don't, what are you > paying them for? Surely not for installing and re-installing the > software, which is easy. I guess I could ask the same question about Windows, in general... > Incidentally, if you want a good browser on your Solaris or AIX > workstation, surely the right people to ask are Sun and IBM -- it's > their job to provide one. It could be mozilla, or it could be > something else (Sun is planning to supply a GNOME 2 desktop, so I > guess they'll support galeon then). If you want a third-party > browser, a system administrator who's interested in his users' welfare > would pick a good browser and not just one which is "supported", or > nobody would be using FreeBSD, we'd all be using Microsoft products. The recommended one from Sun is Netscape. That's really no surprise, considering they and AOL together bought the company. -- Terry To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message